C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

No Power?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 4, 2014 | 10:54 PM
  #1  
Suprsaiyjinbroli's Avatar
Suprsaiyjinbroli
Thread Starter
Advanced
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 92
Likes: 0
From: Florida
Default No Power?

So, I cranked the car up for the first time in a week and a half...the belt was squealing so I rolled it down the driveway and just left it cranked...it ran for about 15 minutes while I cleaned out the inside and the squeal went away. No big deal.

Well, right before I go to shut the car off...I start getting low voltage warnings...I look at the battery information and it is steadily losing power...I shut the car the off. When I pull the key I notice the seat doesn't move since its a power seat...I put the key back into the car and nothing...its a brick.

I popped the hood and it had a burning type smell coming from the alternator...had to push the car, 02 C5Z, back in the garage.

I hooked a trickle charger up to the 2 month old optimum red top...seems fully charged. I'll drop it off at Autozone for a test tomorrow.

The car is getting zero power...did I burn up the alternator which I had rebuilt about a year ago...and blow some fuses? I have no idea.

Can anybody help me out?
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2014 | 12:23 AM
  #2  
Bill Curlee's Avatar
Bill Curlee
Tech Contributor
Supporting Lifetime Gold
Veteran: Navy
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 32,910
Likes: 2,402
From: Anthony TX
CI 6,7,8,9,11 Vet
St. Jude Donor '08
Default

No spuclation until you get the battery fully tested. If You have a fully charged battery, you can run the engine without the alternator (until the battery goes below 8 VDC. Then all the modules shut down.


Report battery health. Insure that you TORQUE the battery terminals properly to 11 ft/lbs and the terminals are clean

BC
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2014 | 10:30 AM
  #3  
3boystoys's Avatar
3boystoys
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,507
Likes: 9
Default

Sounds like alternator is toast, you might want to have it tested too.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2014 | 08:21 PM
  #4  
Suprsaiyjinbroli's Avatar
Suprsaiyjinbroli
Thread Starter
Advanced
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 92
Likes: 0
From: Florida
Default

Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
No spuclation until you get the battery fully tested. If You have a fully charged battery, you can run the engine without the alternator (until the battery goes below 8 VDC. Then all the modules shut down.


Report battery health. Insure that you TORQUE the battery terminals properly to 11 ft/lbs and the terminals are clean

BC
Battery was toast. I had the battery replaced under warranty. Another Optima Red Top is under the hood.

Well, I put the battery into the car and the car starts lighting up all over the place...obviously a battery issue...

So I clear all the codes, crank the car right up, drive it down the driveway...after being cranked for about 2 minutes...the car starts dropping voltage again...I drive the car back up the drive way. I pop the hood and everything seems normal under the hood but the alternator is wicked hot. I can't even touch it without burning my finger. So, I unhook the battery and hooked it up on my trickle charger.

The alternator was rebuilt less than a year ago...no way on this earth I have had 2 bad batteries in a row.

Any ideas? Is it possible I have a bad ground or something?

The extras I am running: Shift Light, N2MB Box, Racetronix Fuel pump with hot wire kit.

The car ran fine after the shift light and n2mb...for over a year.

A shop installed the racetronix...but I drove the car for about a week or so.

First sign of any type of issue...the last couple of days it was driving without issue the fuel "leveler" read empty after I put a full tank in. I shut the car off, cranked it up after clearing the code...and everything was normal for the next 2 days.

Now this.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2014 | 08:30 PM
  #5  
4DRUSH's Avatar
4DRUSH
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 8,629
Likes: 15
From: York PA
Default

Take the alternator out & have it checked
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2014 | 12:33 AM
  #6  
Suprsaiyjinbroli's Avatar
Suprsaiyjinbroli
Thread Starter
Advanced
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 92
Likes: 0
From: Florida
Default

Autozone confirmed...alternator is toast.

Guess it is time to upgrade that POS this go around instead of having it rebuilt...obviously can't handle the extra load being put on it.

Any suggestions on amp output? Or where to buy from? I see the Mecman's are freakin' expensive...
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2014 | 09:32 AM
  #7  
lionelhutz's Avatar
lionelhutz
Race Director
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 11,150
Likes: 890
From: South Western Ontario
Default

With the alternator that hot the windings just might be damaged so it can't be rebuilt. It's hard to know without disassembling it.

Lots of people get charging system warnings when they use anything but the Valeo alternator. You can get around it with tuning. Replacement Valeo alternators are available on Ebay and such.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2014 | 11:15 AM
  #8  
Bill Curlee's Avatar
Bill Curlee
Tech Contributor
Supporting Lifetime Gold
Veteran: Navy
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 32,910
Likes: 2,402
From: Anthony TX
CI 6,7,8,9,11 Vet
St. Jude Donor '08
Default

The OEM alternator (when properly working ) is fine. Just have your OEM alternator rebuilt. That way, you know what you have and there will not be any issues.


Bill
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Aug 11, 2014 | 01:50 PM
  #9  
Suprsaiyjinbroli's Avatar
Suprsaiyjinbroli
Thread Starter
Advanced
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 92
Likes: 0
From: Florida
Default

Originally Posted by lionelhutz
Lots of people get charging system warnings when they use anything but the Valeo alternator. You can get around it with tuning. Replacement Valeo alternators are available on Ebay and such.
I have heard that the upgraded alternators can give people issues

Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
The OEM alternator (when properly working ) is fine. Just have your OEM alternator rebuilt. That way, you know what you have and there will not be any issues.


Bill
Bill,

This will be the second time it has been rebuilt...my fear is that I keep adding to it...and it will just burn up faster this go around.

They're only rated at 110 AMP from what I saw.

Fuel Pump, Nitrous, 2 Step, Shift Light, etc...
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2014 | 04:00 PM
  #10  
Bill Curlee's Avatar
Bill Curlee
Tech Contributor
Supporting Lifetime Gold
Veteran: Navy
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 32,910
Likes: 2,402
From: Anthony TX
CI 6,7,8,9,11 Vet
St. Jude Donor '08
Default

Well,,, I seriously doubt that your anywhere near 100 amps You can confirm that by turning everything ON and measuring the alternator with a clamp on DC Amp Meter.
Reply
Old Aug 15, 2014 | 07:50 AM
  #11  
Suprsaiyjinbroli's Avatar
Suprsaiyjinbroli
Thread Starter
Advanced
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 92
Likes: 0
From: Florida
Default

Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
Well,,, I seriously doubt that your anywhere near 100 amps You can confirm that by turning everything ON and measuring the alternator with a clamp on DC Amp Meter.
New alternator...another rebuild should be completed Monday.

I will test it to be safe...

I've heard that I shouldn't be "pushing" the alternator from several sources...I'll confirm amperage.

I have to have something else going on with the car from the sounds of it
Reply
Old Aug 15, 2014 | 09:19 AM
  #12  
3boystoys's Avatar
3boystoys
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,507
Likes: 9
Default

Originally Posted by Suprsaiyjinbroli
New alternator...another rebuild should be completed Monday.

I will test it to be safe...

I've heard that I shouldn't be "pushing" the alternator from several sources...I'll confirm amperage.

I have to have something else going on with the car from the sounds of it
Wiring may be too small for some of your high current addons.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2016 | 08:31 AM
  #13  
Skyl8y@yahoo.com's Avatar
Skyl8y@yahoo.com
4th Gear
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Default

Alternator?...looked down while at traffic light and saw that all my instruments were not working.....I pulled into right lane and thank God....car then stalled and would not start again.....this happens in Two other vehicles I owned......any other ideas because I feel it is the alternate from all signs.....2003 special anniv....57k miles
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2016 | 09:01 AM
  #14  
Bill Curlee's Avatar
Bill Curlee
Tech Contributor
Supporting Lifetime Gold
Veteran: Navy
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 32,910
Likes: 2,402
From: Anthony TX
CI 6,7,8,9,11 Vet
St. Jude Donor '08
Default

ANYONE here could just tell you "YES,,,, its the alternator" and have you replace it. Then you write back and say that you have the SAME ISSUE!!

Unless you are made of cash,, you need to do some troubleshooting to help pin point the issue.. Could be something as simple as a loose or bad connection.

Here is the charging schematic for 98-2004...




remove and clean the battery terminals and cables. Retorque battery terminal bolts to 11 ft/lbs.. Check the BATT/ALT connection terminal on the starter solenoid for clean/tight connections.

Use a DC Volt meter and measure the voltage on the BACK of the alternator (BATT TERMINAL) Should have battery voltage at all times and full charging voltage with engine running..

Pin D on the small plug (RED WIRE), same as above..

Bill

Last edited by Bill Curlee; Feb 18, 2016 at 09:05 AM.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2016 | 12:29 AM
  #15  
73Corvette's Avatar
73Corvette
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 6,644
Likes: 479
From: OK
Default

Lots of trouble related to batteries, connections, and grounds...

http://www.saccitycorvette.com/Big-3.html
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To No Power?





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:43 PM.

story-0
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-1
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-20 17:58:41


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-3
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette buyer's guide

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-17 16:41:08


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

Slideshow: 10 things C8 Corvette owners hate, but won't tell you.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-01 18:36:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

Slideshow: Should you add one of these incredible Corvettes to your garage?

By Brett Foote | 2026-04-01 18:14:05


VIEW MORE
story-7
Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

Slideshow: Every Corvette Grand Sport explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-26 07:13:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

Slideshow: Breaking down the 2027 Grand Sport, Grand Sport X, Stingray, and LS6 V8.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-03-26 13:48:45


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

Slideshow: 5 reasons bad drivers crash sports cars & 5 ways to avoid a costly shame!

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-25 16:32:55


VIEW MORE