valve spring dilemma!
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valve spring dilemma!
Hey guys! I recently installed a Brian tooley stage 3 cam kit and I was getting some smoke at idle so I pulled the valve springs and checked the valve seals and all of them were pushed up into the valve stem. I came to the conclusion the double spring is pulling the valve seal up. What is the best single beehive spring I can use with the stock retainers and stock valve seal with the integrated seat. Cam spec is 231/242 - .598/.617 @ 112lsa.. any help will be appreciated!
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Are these good for my cam? rated for .625 lift http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...E#.VHcJgDHF9gg
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I'll be running an LS3 in my 01 coupe and I'm using the LSX single beehive springs (the .650 one's). My cam's got a .625 lift so that's plenty. What sold me was that I could use the stock keepers and seats.
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While I'm not an expert, I've not heard of this happening with properly installed springs... Have you called Brian? He would have a good answer for you.
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How did you install the seals?
We use the BTR dual spring kits with seals all day long, when installed properly we see very few issues, but we do see a lot of issues when not installed right.
If you use a hammer and socket or something to tap them on, then they will most likely pop off as yours did.
The inner spring will not contact or pull up the seal unless installed wrong. I think yours just popped off from installation, it takes finesse to get them on right and to stay on.
We don't use beehive springs for a big cam.
Feel free to call, email, or PM us anytime with questions!
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We use the BTR dual spring kits with seals all day long, when installed properly we see very few issues, but we do see a lot of issues when not installed right.
If you use a hammer and socket or something to tap them on, then they will most likely pop off as yours did.
The inner spring will not contact or pull up the seal unless installed wrong. I think yours just popped off from installation, it takes finesse to get them on right and to stay on.
We don't use beehive springs for a big cam.
Feel free to call, email, or PM us anytime with questions!
- Jeremy
Click HERE to send me a PM | Sales@jdpmotorsports.com | www.jdpmotorsports.com | JDP Facebook | 888.308.6007
Last edited by JDP Tech; Nov 28, 2014 at 03:21 PM.
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thanks for the replys! a shop around here did them originally with the cam swap. Yesterday I personally pulled all the springs and installed new seals after roughing up the guide a little and wiping them off of any residual oil and yes I used the socket and hammer method. The seals only go on one way and only go so far on the guide, so I don't know how it can be messed up. So far running great, ran it through a few heat cycles and high RPM blasts, no smoke! Hopefully it was either the seals that came with the BTR kit or the way they installed them because if it happens again, it has to be the inner spring.
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thanks for the replys! a shop around here did them originally with the cam swap. Yesterday I personally pulled all the springs and installed new seals after roughing up the guide a little and wiping them off of any residual oil and yes I used the socket and hammer method. The seals only go on one way and only go so far on the guide, so I don't know how it can be messed up. So far running great, ran it through a few heat cycles and high RPM blasts, no smoke! Hopefully it was either the seals that came with the BTR kit or the way they installed them because if it happens again, it has to be the inner spring.
Feel free to call, email, or PM us anytime with questions!
- Jeremy
