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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mrr23
nice you can't even link to an acceptable definition for alignment terminology, yet i can. twice even.
I posted the GM manual page yet you apparently can't accept that.

You posted an alignment printout page with "specified Range" listed right over the tolerance yet you ignored that too.
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by lionelhutz
I posted the GM manual page yet you apparently can't accept that.

You posted an alignment printout page with "specified Range" listed right over the tolerance yet you ignored that too.

i can accept it just fine. never did find that word TARGET you referred to.

you said you would post an alignment sheet. so you posted a page out of a manual?? good thing i posted an actual alignment sheet and not a page out of a manual only GM technicians see, or people that go out and buy GM manuals.

specification and specified both are a derivative of the word specific.

but again you're right, i'm wrong. you win, i lose. i can't compete with your engineering degree, i don't know how i've been doing this wrong for the last 14 years of my life and getting away with people having great tire wear, increasing their fuel mileage slightly, and for a few winning their events. oh well, guess i'll just go kill myself over a word.

i can do this all day long. look it's just a word. you use yours, i'll use mine and go our separate ways. i'm ok with saying specifications CAN INCLUDE tolerances.

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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 11:11 AM
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Enough arguing. You both are down to a game of semantics.

Whether you use the word "target" or "preferred" they mean the same thing in this context. As shown, the GM paper calls for a preferred setting. GM defined what should work on our cars.

In practice you will not be able to reach that exactly that is why there is a specification range "spec" or as GM calls it a "service allowable".

The OP was searching for correcting a tire wear issue and what is the best target for alignment settings. That may be a different "target" or "preferred" or somewhere within the "spec" that is a more accurate alignment setting than is allowed by either the range in the GM specifications or the alignment machine's range.
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 11:19 AM
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Enough arguing. You both are down to a game of semantics.

Whether you use the word "target" or "preferred" they mean the same thing in this context. As shown, the GM paper calls for a preferred setting. GM defined what should work on our cars.

In practice you will not be able to reach that exactly that is why there is a specification range "spec" or as GM calls it a "service allowable".

The OP was searching for correcting a tire wear issue and what is the best target for alignment settings. That may be a different "target" or "preferred" or somewhere within the "spec" that is a more accurate alignment setting than is allowed by either the range in the GM specifications or the alignment machine's range.
you think? i've said it a couple of times. even sent him a PM calling for a truce. up to him. OP never asked for a particular specification actually, but got them. that's when semantics stepped in. i'm all for stopping. he doesn't seem to want to. i could just step away and should. even asked a certain moderator to close the thread. seems that particular moderator is ok with this just going on.

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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 11:45 AM
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tell you what, i concede. time to move on.
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