What cam for spring longevity/low maintenance?
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What cam for spring longevity/low maintenance?
I'm shopping for a head/cam package, and have been researching for weeks but having trouble answering my specific question, which is how long do upgraded springs last with a mild cam?
I'm looking at AFR 210 heads and a very mild cam (need to pass CA smog), but one thing I do NOT want to do is have to go in and replace my springs every 10k miles. This is a strictly street car that I drive 8-12k miles per year, and that just doesn't appeal to me.
Does anybody have suggestions for a smog happy combo that will need as little maintenance as possible? I'm happy to spend the money on the right parts up front to avoid the hassle down the line. My goal is 400-450 WHP.
Thanks for any thoughts/suggestions!
EDIT: I'm specifically looking at the Texas Speed 224R cam.
I'm looking at AFR 210 heads and a very mild cam (need to pass CA smog), but one thing I do NOT want to do is have to go in and replace my springs every 10k miles. This is a strictly street car that I drive 8-12k miles per year, and that just doesn't appeal to me.
Does anybody have suggestions for a smog happy combo that will need as little maintenance as possible? I'm happy to spend the money on the right parts up front to avoid the hassle down the line. My goal is 400-450 WHP.
Thanks for any thoughts/suggestions!
EDIT: I'm specifically looking at the Texas Speed 224R cam.
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PSI 1511 Max Life or PAC 1518
cant go wrong with either and if set up properly with that cam and and not abused you could see 50k miles easy. regardless you should still check them at 20k-30k miles and replace as necessary.
cant go wrong with either and if set up properly with that cam and and not abused you could see 50k miles easy. regardless you should still check them at 20k-30k miles and replace as necessary.
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Overlap needs to supposedly -4 and lower. Those springs are good for that cam.
If your keeping the stock exhaust manifolds it seems like having a large split duration on your cam is better.
If your keeping the stock exhaust manifolds it seems like having a large split duration on your cam is better.
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Send a PM to Tony Mamo. He knows the heads and what cams will pass in CA. As for springs, if you upgrade to the AFR 8019's with a mild cam, you will have a very long term package. Don't think beehive springs will control the valves in AFR heads, they are rather heavy. Also, the 224R I believe is on XER lobes, not the best for valve spring life.
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Send a PM to Tony Mamo. He knows the heads and what cams will pass in CA. As for springs, if you upgrade to the AFR 8019's with a mild cam, you will have a very long term package. Don't think beehive springs will control the valves in AFR heads, they are rather heavy. Also, the 224R I believe is on XER lobes, not the best for valve spring life.
Appreciate the help!
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You can go by the part numbers etched on the the ends.
I am no cam guru but looking at the basics, a
224/224 grind with LXL lobes on a 115 + 4 , for a -6 overlap would be very reliable with a good springs and pass emissions...
I am no cam guru but looking at the basics, a
224/224 grind with LXL lobes on a 115 + 4 , for a -6 overlap would be very reliable with a good springs and pass emissions...
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How do I find this cam? That grind and overlap is exactly what I've been looking at, but I can't figure out how to determine the lobes while shopping online.
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Talk with whoever you're buying the cam from, almost all of them can custom grind a cam to any spec you want on any lobe. Unless you want a proprietary lobe like eps or fti, then you must go through them.
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OP....
Shoot me an email, PM, or phone call.....I will get you squared away on the cam.
I also would recommend a smooth lobe like the Comp LXL....I run those lobes on my CTSV and its a car I put alot of miles on.
A 224/224 on a 114 is passable on emissions but by no means a lay up....still requires a good tune. If you want less worries when the time comes to smog the vehicle I would want to go 115 as well to reduce the overlap and improve (reduce) emissions. You could also shorten the intake lobe but I think a single pattern on a 115 is a good choice for a mild performance cam you can enjoy driving and still squeak by the sniffer when the time comes.
I can spec and have Comp dropship this custom cam to your door. Get in touch with me for more info.....normally takes a week or less depending on what part of the country you live in
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Shoot me an email, PM, or phone call.....I will get you squared away on the cam.
I also would recommend a smooth lobe like the Comp LXL....I run those lobes on my CTSV and its a car I put alot of miles on.
A 224/224 on a 114 is passable on emissions but by no means a lay up....still requires a good tune. If you want less worries when the time comes to smog the vehicle I would want to go 115 as well to reduce the overlap and improve (reduce) emissions. You could also shorten the intake lobe but I think a single pattern on a 115 is a good choice for a mild performance cam you can enjoy driving and still squeak by the sniffer when the time comes.
I can spec and have Comp dropship this custom cam to your door. Get in touch with me for more info.....normally takes a week or less depending on what part of the country you live in
Cheers,
Tony