Guys,

The Vararam probably provides the same gain as all the other mainstream cold air intakes, but I refuse to believe that a cold air intake will provide a 35-40 horsepower gain on a stock motor or even on a H/C car.

We now also carry the Vararam unit and as it is a well built unit that provides a nice hp gain, there is no way that it provides the gains that Vararam advertises. It is just impossible!

For any of you that are looking at the addition of a Vararam, go ahead and install one. I am sure you will very happy with the results.

Shawn

 

Are you now stocking the Race Filter Equipped units?

RG

 

Well put Shawn. that is our gripe exactly! i am sure the VR is a good intake, but the claims they make are laughable. anyone that takes their claims seriously, (vendor or potential customer) is not living in the "real" world! we have not said once, the VR is a bad intake...

Nate

 

You done with those tests already are you? :) You guys make comments on something you haven't even tested yet. When you do, let us know what the real story is in the real world.:)


...now back to our regularly scheduled programming....lol.

RG





[Modified by RG in Dallas, 11:44 AM 8/19/2002]

 

RG,

Yes, we are now stocking the two choices from Vararam. The K&N filter equipped units and the Race Filter equipped units. According to Terri at Vararam, they only have one Vararam unit, but you have a choice of the K&N filter or Race filter.

You of all people should know that, especially since you sell the Vararam.

Shawn






[Modified by L.A.P.D., 10:03 AM 8/19/2002]

 

Maybe you just didn't understand the question. I thought I was clear, but, since it's Monday, let me restate it. I asked if you stocked the RACE filter equipped units. You answered yes, AND you stock the K&N equipped units. I know the difference do you? We don't stock the K&N units.

RG




[Modified by RG in Dallas, 12:04 PM 8/19/2002]

 

RG,

Ok, let me make it clearer for you.

Again, according to Terri at Vararam, the Vararam units are the same no matter what. If someone wants a K&N filter or a Race Filter with their Vararam, you just include it at the time the order goes out.

We offer the two choices just in case someone wants the K&N filter or the Race Fiilter.

So, to answer your question again, we are stocking both filter choices for the Vararam units even though we feel that most people will want the race filter.

Shawn

 

Did the real world drag racing tests done by Powershifter get completed and did he pick up the advertised gains of .35 + and 3mph in the 1/4? Vararam has a stout warranty regarding performance and did the test run by Powershifter live up to the advertisement? Virtual tapping of virtual microphone... is this thing on? :)

 

Well this has been an entertaining thread :lol: Let's just settle all this bickering once and for all. Let's have a vendor Wrestlemania, where all the vendors are locked up in a 15ft steel cage. The first Vendor to climb outside the cage is the winner and hence is right :yesnod: :lol: :lol:
Come on guys all this bickering and putting each other down on a public forum cant be too good for business :nono:

 

He didn't start with a stock car. Yes he gained with it and is a better driver than 99% of the Vette owners out there. It works.:)

RG

 

Moundir,

You are right.

If I offended anyone in any of my posts on this thread, I am sorry.

I am just posting information that I was asked.

Shawn

 

While that Wrestlemania idea is far fetched, I damn sure ain't duckin' either one of them in that case. :)

I agree, we don't enage in this activity unless called out.:) You don't see our reps posts being deleted or edited or being reprimanded for shennanigans behind the scenes by Forum management. It's just not worth the energy nor is it the right way to conduct oneself.:)

RG

 

As you may have seen, the V/R money back guarantee offer is being hotly debated here. They offer that money back guarantee so if they over promise, you are refunded, in other words, they put their money where their mouth is. No one manufactuerer to date has done that. If the guarantee isn't to your liking, then pass on it. No biggie, we all be happy Corvette owners at the end of the day anyway.

If one doesn't believe the claims then there are alternatives such as the Blackwing and the Vortex units we offer. Both great products that we have sold tons of in the past two years and will continue to by matching what our customers want out of an intake with regards to performance, ease of install, and price. That's why we offer several brands and have added the V/R recently. We even sell a simple plug-on filter for the really budget minded.

On this Forum and others, we have seen manufacturers/vendors boast and claim and leave this Forum and come back, and leave, and all of that. That just takes years off the end of your life getting so worked up about it. Nothing is worth that. It's not worth getting worked up over, or losing sleep over. There will always be detractors to products by many different sources, both real and 'undercover' as regular members. There will also be 'member camps' that will not believe in anything but what they own. All of this is normal in society I guess. there will aslo be guys trying to proetct market share like they do in the 'real' world out there. It's just business in a hobby based market where guys, and gals, want to go faster and look better with a car that out of the box is faster and better looking than 99% of the cars out there, IMO.:)

We will watch and see what and if any tests are done by the folks that don't buy into claims or money back guarantees on the V/R. The only change will be, we won't keep on, keeping on, with the nonsense that others want to drag us into. I would rather channel that energy into something more positive, like our customers expectations and service needs, which if you'll search our name out on this Forum, will find is very, very good.:)

Take care,

RG

 

It sounds as if he's happy with it and that's what's important in the long run, I suppose. I have no axe to grind about any intake and I'm not the least bit interested in vendor disputes... I've got no dog in this fight :smash:

Different filter elements, turbulence or lack thereof at the MAF are real issues that separate one intake from another from a shape or filter media effects.

IAT temps are highly relied on by the engine controls when fuel tables and timing advance is calculated. The IAT is now in the MAF...get it hot goodbye horses... keep it ambient, less chance of reduced power through table reductions.

As for "ram" effect... I doubt it big time from any manufacturer at the speeds we are talking about in the 1/4, IMHO. My humble opinion doesn't matter one bit in the long run.

My question about Powershifter's test was an earnest one. I stopped following it after a point. Part of why he was chosen was because he is so well equipped to run consistantly and not have a one off gain from hooking well on a pass...a least that's how I remember it. He had a K&N and a TB bypass... maybe a t-stat. I can't vouch for the TB bypass being a must do gain lots mod. At the strip it ain't an issue. I guess the gain was there but not "vast". I know any gain is a gain, no harm no foul.

I was under the impression Powershifter was given an intake to make a point about how well the Vararam works. I wasn't under the ipression his test of the intake was flawed to begin with as I thought everyone was aware of what he had for mods. Perhaps his underhood temps were not as much of an issue with a t-stat changed out. It wasn't a loaded question.

Anyway, best of luck to all the vendors.


[Modified by 1fastdog, 1:46 PM 8/19/2002]

 

1fastdog,

No sweat, man, I know you are just askin'.:)

Ric was very skeptical that ANY intake could improve his times or MPH, that's why he was involved with it. I set that up through another Forum, it wasn't ever meant to be along the lines of the guarantee.:)

RG


[Modified by RG in Dallas, 1:48 PM 8/19/2002]

 

Sorry guys...I was trying to be funny :mad and failing miserably!!! I didn't mean to start something...I was outta line! (Me, wearing the dunce cap in the corner again...DOH!) :bb :nonod: :( :cry :troll :rolleyes:


[Modified by silversport, 1:50 PM 8/19/2002]

 

No, No, it's only when others run with it.

RG

 

Fair enough. Thanks for the response RG.

 

I did. It picked up 4 RWHP over the MTI true ram air, but the real pickup was in RWTQ. I gained 30 RWTQ at 2500 rpms. Check my post for the details.
Randy goss :cheers:

 

Who wants to send me an intake?? I'll put the freakin Vararam on my BONE stock car, go to Ennis this weekend, and run it 5 or 10 times. Then I'll put the stock intake, still paper filter equipped, run it the same number of times and see what happens. I'll even do a Vortex and Blackwing if you want (sorry, no Halltech please). I'll keep the variables the same, (shift points, temp., launch rpms, etc.) I'll keep the timeslips, scan them and post the results or send them to whoever wants them. My car has ZERO traction problem, I couldn't make it spin if I wanted to. I would think this would be a pretty definative test. Am I wrong? What do you guys think? Let me know if anyone is interested.





[Modified by Big Carrot, 9:59 PM 8/19/2002]