Did anyone dyno there ride after installing a vararam setup? And what was the before setup and numbers. thanks :cheers:

 

We dynoed a customers car 3 or 4 weeks ago and he had the Vararam. we did not specifically dyno for the intake, but for a Stinger exhaust that we installed. I do not remember the exact numbers, but the combo did not dyno more than the Blackwing, Vortex or Halltech with the same exhaust.

Nate

 

Thanks Nate. I thought so. I'll be calling you about some bolt ons soon as I get paid this week. :chevy

 

One thing to remember about intakes, especially rammer/cold air kits...You don't run on a dyno in the real world. A quicker, faster, car is what you are after.


Here is a performance guarantee on the V/R.:)



For ease of install, the BW is the ticket. :)

RG


[Modified by RG in Dallas, 10:04 PM 8/18/2002]

 

...and they're off... :boxing :cheers: :D

 

Nope.:) Just answering the post for the new member.:)

RG


[Modified by RG in Dallas, 10:15 PM 8/18/2002]

 

a reduction of.35-.40 tenths, 3-4mph gained in the 1/4 mile track? that equates to 35-40hp gain from only an intake! add the magnaflow exhaust w/x pipe for another 21 hp gain! that combo could potentially do 61hp! :lol:

we dont sell the vararam kit, but it looks like a good unit. i guarantee members that buy it, will feel a difference. no doubt. but, are there huge hp differences between the vararam, blackwing, vortex and halltech? no. buy an intake system for: looks, good hp gains, ease of installation or its cost. im sure you will be happy with any of the four above intakes, just dont buy into the hype...call us if you want non biased advise.

Nate

 

Should I answer too? Ah, why not :D ...not that I'm being biased or anything but I think Nate and RG BOTH have valid points. However I do feel real world driving does not normally consist of a drag strip... let alone the last 300 feet or so where a Vararam has its benifits as a cold air induction unit. I am in no way trying to dismantle any of the claims by Vararam Industries... just that there are, IMHO, cheaper high quality alternatives for the C5 guy or gal that does not sweat the claimed few tenths or mph over a stock... on a ride that may only see the strip a few times in its life... or the folks who autocross for sport. For the avid drag racer though perhaps the Vararam is a good choice right there with other cold air packages :)

:cheers:

 

We don't ask other vendors to believe or not believe anything. We ask our customers to take a look at the offerings of the VaraRam and if you don't believe the claims, don't buy it. If you want one with a money back guarantee against results posted, then the VaraRam is the choice with that guarantee.

Remember, stock boxes on 97-00 are much more restrictive than the 01/02/03 cars.

We also sell the Vortex and the Blackwings in massive amounts and those customers made their decisions like all others, education. Buyers don't need others trying to derail a product. But, if that's what others want to do, then we will just stick wit the message of what performance the VaraRam is backing up with a money back guarantee. Obvioulsy it is taking market share away and producing happy customers and that won't go uncontested here by others, whether they be real or not, as is the nature of the business on the net these days.:) Too bad they don't channel that energy elsewhere.

One more item, anyone out there NOT concerned about how fast there car is in the 1/4 mile...on the street? Not many I bet.:)

RG





[Modified by RG in Dallas, 12:08 AM 8/19/2002]

 

 

Saw an 02 Z06 dyno after puttin on a Vararam and gained 5RWHP over stock.. I guess intakes are like a bax of choklates...

(And no - I havent dynoed mine yet after puttin mine on... :D)

 

Put it to the 1/4 mile test versus stock and see what gain it gets...dynos aren't the best measure of mods in that it doesn't take into account moving air at speed. I know, I know, you already knew that, Brent.:) Just reminding others.

RG


[Modified by RG in Dallas, 12:11 AM 8/19/2002]

 

RG - you are exactly right - :yesnod: - thanks for adding that point.. :D

 

Brent- 5 hp over stock? :( thats sad...but remember, thats not real! Im sure your intake will dyno better...oops, i mean, your car will be faster when you are going fast? :confused:

if dynomometers and its measured gains are not considered "real world", we need to send our $34,000 dyno back to the manu asap! thats an expensive paper-weight!

we will have dyno number/track times on the VR soon. we are hosting an intake shootout! http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=367833

Nate

 

Looking forward to your results. Hopefully you guys can get all the data gathered correctly at the track in a timely fashion.:)

How about the volant setup too? The one you guys really push. Although, I did see one guy dynoed with it and lose 11 hp and return it, I'd like to know how it does at the track.

Which VaraRam unit will you be using? The one with the Race Filter I'd hope.


If you can detail a plan of what testing you will do, we'll send one to your customer/test pilot and you can pay us if he wants to keep that one. Sound good?


RG




[Modified by RG in Dallas, 5:56 AM 8/19/2002]

 

RG,
I'd like to think we can correctly gather data :lol: ... I suppose we'll have to rent track time to get it done in a timely fashion... but I'll let Nate take care of the logisitics. I will certainly help coordinate where and how I can.

I don't know how it is you can determine we push one product over another... we offer several different intake product lines and try to match them to customers uses and don't feel, as I'm sure you feel the same way, that one product line fits all customer needs/demands/budget. Yes, we sell Volant products... and I'm not familiar with the 11hp loss/product return you refer to. But if thats the case I hope we were able to satisfy the customer with a product that matched his/her expectations.

If you feel the Race filter is the media we should test with the Vararam then I'll pass that along to Nate... I'm sure he could agree to that.

Actually I'll just IM him this thread... you guys can determine how the Vararam will be obtained for testing purposes.

I am as eager as you to find out the results. Knowing that whatever the outcome is you and I both know intake products, with all their advantages/disadvantages, will continue to be debated... and all of us vendors/members will still be here to offer our opinion.


[Modified by billreid1@***.net, 6:02 AM 8/19/2002]

 

Powershifter was doing a test on the Vararam at the track. Did he pick up at least 3 and a half tenths and the guaranteed mile per hour gain?

That's a real world test...right?


[Modified by 1fastdog, 11:05 AM 8/19/2002]


[Modified by 1fastdog, 12:06 PM 8/19/2002]

 

Good to hear, Bill. Back to back testing at the track of the 5 or so 'popular' intakes, with time for realearn in between, will take some time, but, should produce something to look at and discuss.

We can also look at what Forum Members are running with intakes. It's easier and real world.:) But, if Nate is set on this big test, then we will supply a V/R for use, then payment or return.

Customers do have their preferences. Some will like a non cutting unit, like the VaraRam or Blackwing. Others want the easiest to install with less gain, like the Blackwing. Some want a stock looking piece, getting cold air from outside, with a guarantee, like the VaraRam. Different strokes for different folks as with a lot of things.:)

RG

ps...Volant issue was an 02 Z06 out of Washington State. 02 Z's are quirky with top breathers it seems.

 

sorry, we need no help, input or product from you Exit 28, but thank you so much for the offer!

dont worry, we have all the "real" equipment we need to test correctly.

Nate

 

Good deal. Let's hope it gets done.

RG