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Old Aug 10, 2015 | 11:49 PM
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My engine runs normal at start up but after a few minutes It starts to run rich. Blows light grey smoke out of the tail pipe . When I pull all the spark plugs they are soaked in fuel. Also if I don't pull the plugs and dried them the car will not restart. Sometimes it will if I have WOT. I pulled the codes and got code P0102, Which means the MAF sensor does not sense much air flow. I replaced the MAF with a new one, ran a continuity check on the wires ( OK ) and I still have the same problem. Sometimes it give code P0102 and sometime it doesn't but engine still runs very rich regarless.
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Old Aug 12, 2015 | 03:37 AM
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could the engine be running rich to make up for a lean condition it think its experiencing? Have you checked for a vacuum leak? Are you sure your injectors arnt leaking. It is possible that all leak a little bit. We get some injectors with test sheets that look horrible before the rebuild.
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could the engine be running rich to make up for a lean condition it think its experiencing? Have you checked for a vacuum leak? Are you sure your injectors arnt leaking. It is possible that all leak a little bit. We get some injectors with test sheets that look horrible before the rebuild.
I found a small vacuum on the back of the intake manifold where the brake booster connect to broken. I'm going to be replacing it and hope maybe this will take care of it.
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Have you checked to see if you have any codes set ? A bad O2 sensor can cause a lean running condition if I remember correctly !
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No codes other than P102 but, I have replaced it with no improvement. I did noticed the connector a little deformed and as I said found the small vacuum hose on the rear of the intake broken off. I've order a new connector and have repaired the hose. I'm hoping once the connector is replaced my issues will go away.
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Factory tune or no?

Do you have a scanner or any way of getting a log or data from the computer?
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What year car do you have? P0102 isn't a code on 2002-2004 cars and is a code on 2000 and 2001 cars but the diagnostics are different for each year. Remember codes don't tell you what to replace (MAF) but where to look. P0102 just tells you the MAF is reading an incorrect value but it doesn't indicate whether the MAF is bad (could be) or something else in the electrical circuit or something mechanical like a vacuum leak is causing the incorrect reading.

I am attaching the Diagnostic for the 2000 model year. It is similar to the 2001 model year but has several less diagnostic steps. There are several steps that call for the use of a Tech 2 but you can work around those types of things by reading and determining how you can use shorting wires and a DMM to make the same measurements.

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No codes other than P102 but, I have replaced it with no improvement. I did noticed the connector a little deformed and as I said found the small vacuum hose on the rear of the intake broken off. I've order a new connector and have repaired the hose. I'm hoping once the connector is replaced my issues will go away.
After doing the above the issue went away, I'm still having a small issues when starting but I will open another thread for that.
Thanks guys! Your inputs always make it easy and fun.
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