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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 02:26 PM
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Hello, all... new member here, though I do frequent the site. My question is one of the never ending cam saga, and I have done research, (even on this site) but I mostly find f body owners using the cam I'd like. It is the tick performance Street heat stage 2. My car is a 90k mile 2002 6 speed coupe. I will be doing longtubes and off road x pipe at the same time. Lsxkilr out of bonner springs, ks will be tuning it. My axle back is borla stinger. I'd love to hear from someone using this cam in a c5, I've read where Martin suggests it is livelier in the vette than in the f body. My car is not a daily, but I like to drive it whenever possible. I also enjoy taking it on trips, most recently to Oklahoma city from my home north of kansas city, mo... around 11 hours round trip, and it was comfortable for every second. Basically, what kind of power can I expect with this setup, more importantly... how is the midrange power and real world torque curve? How much did your mileage decrease? I know, I know... not too important, but I love getting 28 mpg on trips, just curious how it's affected. How does this cam do with the 3.42 gears staying in the car? Any bucking? Surging? Stalling? "Sewing machine noise"? I had a ms4 cammed 02 camaro before this, and it pulled like crazy, but it was so poorly mannered, I really didn't enjoy driving it. I'm ok with a choppy idle, just don't want it surging and stalling on me in traffic. Thanks a bunch in advance, folks.

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Hello, all... new member here, though I do frequent the site. My question is one of the never ending cam saga, and I have done research, (even on this site) but I mostly find f body owners using the cam I'd like. It is the tick performance Street heat stage 2. My car is a 90k mile 2002 6 speed coupe. I will be doing longtubes and off road x pipe at the same time. Lsxkilr out of bonner springs, ks will be tuning it. My axle back is borla stinger. I'd love to hear from someone using this cam in a c5, I've read where Martin suggests it is livelier in the vette than in the f body. My car is not a daily, but I like to drive it whenever possible. I also enjoy taking it on trips, most recently to Oklahoma city from my home north of kansas city, mo... around 11 hours round trip, and it was comfortable for every second. Basically, what kind of power can I expect with this setup, more importantly... how is the midrange power and real world torque curve? How much did your mileage decrease? I know, I know... not too important, but I love getting 28 mpg on trips, just curious how it's affected. How does this cam do with the 3.42 gears staying in the car? Any bucking? Surging? Stalling? "Sewing machine noise"? I had a ms4 cammed 02 camaro before this, and it pulled like crazy, but it was so poorly mannered, I really didn't enjoy driving it. I'm ok with a choppy idle, just don't want it surging and stalling on me in traffic. Thanks a bunch in advance, folks.

IF,,,, I told you I have a Whiplash Cam from England Green Performance,, What would that mean to you> Unless you knew the specs for that cam, It wouldn't mean much. So, please list the Street heat stage 2 specs

Cams have a POWER range. The RPM where they start making power.. If you select a cam that ,makes all of its power from 4000 - 7500 RPM ,, You better be driving a race prepped car on the track or strip.

Try to select a cam that has fantastic power in the MID Power Range. They are easier to tune and easier to drive. You also have to ask your self,,,, What are ALL of my goals for a cam swap?

Some of those questions should be:

- Budget
- HP TQ expectations
- Reliability
- Primary use of the car and powertrain

YOU STATED : " I love getting 28 mpg on trips, just curious how it's affected. How does this cam do with the 3.42 gears staying in the car? Any bucking? Surging? Stalling? "Sewing machine noise"? I had a ms4 cammed 02 camaro before this, and it pulled like crazy, but it was so poorly mannered, I really didn't enjoy driving it. I'm ok with a choppy idle, just don't want it surging and stalling on me in traffic. "

My WHIPLASH CAM is pretty close to the street sweeper cam. So, I know what you mean.. I like the high RPM power but, it all up high in the rpm range

Once you add cam and headers, there are things that will need attention:

Clutch
TT Couplers
Traction
Suspension

I can get 26-27 MPG at 450 RWHP on the highway and shes a BEAST when you hammer it!! I upgraded to a SPEC DUAL DISK clutch, up graded differential, wider tires and rims and better shocks and a who;e bunch of reliability stuff.

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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 09:58 PM
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Thanks for the reply.
231/235 | .63x”/.61x” | LSA113+3
Basic Operating RPM Range: *2000-6600

Your mileage is incredible for the power you're making. My camaro gulped fuel, but I blame that on the 4.11 gears more than the cam I was using.
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Old school knowledge is to do all your cam research and when purchasing go 1 size larger !! Most everyone have regrets after a cam swap that they should have went larger
On a manual trans you can get away with a larger cam without sacrificing any drivability-- The cam you chose seems to be right in line however I would still go somewhat larger like in the high 230's maybe a .235/239---
Surging and drivability issues are simple a result of poor tuning---I have tuned much larger cams on a manual trans with no issues and even some on A4's with a stall converter
As far as mileage goes It really does not change that much as mentioned---maybe 1-2 MPG less--- My 98 A4 even with 3.42 gears and a high .220's cam (.228) still got 27 MPG and never had any drivability problems---A M6 is much more forgiving
I would also on a manual trans get a LSA of 112--rather than a 113 +3--It will sound and lope awesomely --and will make incredible top end HP and TQ
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The problem is, my camaro had a huge cam in it, and I constantly wished it was smaller. Now, I know it was an auto, but it was just not a well behaved engine. I'm trying to find a happy medium, something that will really wake the car up, but not make it a pain to drive. I've heard people say that a huge cam can be tuned to behave, others say that the great big cams are just gonna act up. I know, in my experience, the previous owner was unable to tune the ms4 to behave, and I had a tuner work on it for 6 hours, though it continued to surge, stall, and buck at low rpm's. Just trying to avoid the headache this time around.
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