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Old Mar 17, 2016 | 04:48 PM
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I have a 2004 Coupe. I blew the clutch shifting at 7k rpm and when I attempted to separate it from the Quiktime Bellhousing I realized it was stuck. I've tried everything to take it out. I've had it out other times to fix the pilot bearing and replacing the clutch twice. Never had this issue before.
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Old Mar 17, 2016 | 09:52 PM
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Are you trying to remove the entire drive train ( TT/Trans/DIFF) all at once??

If it were me, I would remove the Trans/Diff and then see if you can get the TT input shaft to release. Its a WHOLE LOT easier that wrestling with the entire drive train.

Does the TT separate any from the Bell Housing?
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Are you trying to remove the entire drive train ( TT/Trans/DIFF) all at once??

If it were me, I would remove the Trans/Diff and then see if you can get the TT input shaft to release. Its a WHOLE LOT easier that wrestling with the entire drive train.

Does the TT separate any from the Bell Housing?
Trans and Differential were removed. The torque tube input shaft seems to be stuck inside the clutch. I'm guessing that it's stuck to the pilot bearing (I'm using a solid bronze bushing). I'm going to try to cut off the input shaft with a Diablo tungsten carbide Sawzall blade. Or use an auto body spreader to separate it. Hopefully the engine doesn't get hurt.
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can you get at the pressure plate bolts ??? take them out, bolt the tube back to the bell housing and take the bell housing, pressure plate, disc all at once ????? I have not yet gone that deep into my car so I don't know if there is enough room ??
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Originally Posted by 2004SpiralGrey
Trans and Differential were removed. The torque tube input shaft seems to be stuck inside the clutch. I'm guessing that it's stuck to the pilot bearing (I'm using a solid bronze bushing). I'm going to try to cut off the input shaft with a Diablo tungsten carbide Sawzall blade. Or use an auto body spreader to separate it. Hopefully the engine doesn't get hurt.
I would try to wedge the left and right sides of the TT out of the bell housing and HOPEFULLY you can POP the bushing out of the crank. Wiggle & Pull!

I HOPE you don't plan on using any solid bushing again! They have been proven problematic.
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Old Mar 18, 2016 | 08:26 PM
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I have seen where the splines on the shaft are twisted so the disc won't move or slide ????

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This same thing happen to me. My pilot bearing went out. Had a loud high pitch noise . I tried everything possible to get it separated from bellhousing. So here goes. I hooked a chain to the back of the TT and to a car hatch or bumper where ever you can hook the chain to a car bumper. I had a friend go forward until the chain was taunt but not crazy tanut and then i stood on the chain and it popped right out. This was my last resort to get that TT out. Very unorthodox but it worked. Bearing was shot to hell.I tried prying and prying by the front of TT from the bellhousing and it didn't move at all . GL
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I'm going to work on it again on Monday. Unfortunately, I can't get to the pressure plate bolts without damaging and cutting up my scattershield bell housing. I'm going to try using a come-alone cable puller to yank it out. I'll probably thread longer grade 8 bolts into the scattershield through the torque tube just in case the pressure makes it go flying off.
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Originally Posted by 2004SpiralGrey
I'm going to work on it again on Monday. Unfortunately, I can't get to the pressure plate bolts without damaging and cutting up my scattershield bell housing. I'm going to try using a come-alone cable puller to yank it out. I'll probably thread longer grade 8 bolts into the scattershield through the torque tube just in case the pressure makes it go flying off.
Are you trying to pull off the TT with the bellhousing on???? Can you take pics. I'm kinda of not following you??? The TT is removed from the bellhousing if i remember correctly.
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This is a longshot, but maybe worth a try. Have someone get in the car, and press the clutch pedal down, while you try to wiggle the TT out. If the throwout will still be able to actuate the pressure plate, by removing some of the pressure on the clutch plate may give you some "wiggle room".....
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Originally Posted by helga203
Are you trying to pull off the TT with the bellhousing on???? Can you take pics. I'm kinda of not following you??? The TT is removed from the bellhousing if i remember correctly.
Trying to remove the torque tube from the car. The engine is in the car with a Quiktime Scattershield bellhousing; which is being left on the engine. Attached to that is the torque tube. The input shaft/driveshaft that goes through me Spec super twin disc clutch is stuck inside there. It seems as though the brass pilot bushing has fused itself to the shaft ((That's what she said)). I tried prying the hell out of it and even started to cut the input shaft with tons of Sawzall blades. I'm almost to the point where I need to lift the body off the engine and torque tube which would prob make it easier; unfortunately, I don't have a lift yet.
I'm going to get under it tomorrow and see if I can get it to release with a come-along.

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Wow..that SUCKS!
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Originally Posted by 2004SpiralGrey
Trying to remove the torque tube from the car. The engine is in the car with a Quiktime Scattershield bellhousing; which is being left on the engine. Attached to that is the torque tube. The input shaft/driveshaft that goes through me Spec super twin disc clutch is stuck inside there. It seems as though the brass pilot bushing has fused itself to the shaft ((That's what she said)). I tried prying the hell out of it and even started to cut the input shaft with tons of Sawzall blades. I'm almost to the point where I need to lift the body off the engine and torque tube which would prob make it easier; unfortunately, I don't have a lift yet.
I'm going to get under it tomorrow and see if I can get it to release with a come-along.
While keeping good tension on the TT try to tap the front of the TT with a hammer. Man this sucks bro. I feel your pain. I got lucky when mine popped out. If i was not able to get it out i don't think i'll still have the car. I was ready to torch it. GL
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FINALLY! I had to cut the input shaft going into the clutch. When I removed the torque tube I could hear something rattling inside. Turns out that the Prothane six-shooter couplers failed. For now, the input shaft is still inside the clutch but next week I'm removing the bellhousing and pressure plate to se what kind of damage is inside.
I had the TT attached to a come-along which was also attached to my truck. The come-along was putting so much force on the TT it was starting to pull the car off the jack stands.
At least it's finally out.

Thanks for all your input.
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Can you get some pictures of the carnage????
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Can you get some pictures of the carnage????




Poly inserts failed





Even the rear coupler poly inserts were bulging and coming apart





After removing the snap ring the drivesaft would not come out. Had to cut the TT in half because I wanted to try to salvage the couplers

Slightly Used TT for sale $100
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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 11:23 PM
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time for the scrap aluminum barrel !!!!!!!
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I see 2 bolts that backed-out being the cause of that coupler falling apart.
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Brother,, I've see SEVERAL to those PROTHANE couplers fail exactly the same way. There have been several post on them failing.

Here is a statement by PATCHES that I thought was interesting:

Originally Posted by Patches View Post

FYI, I recently tried to buy a Protahne Six-Shooter coupler to inspect it and see if I wanted to use it instead to the DSS poly coupler and was informed by the vendor that they have stopped selling the Six-Shooter while the manufacturer redesigns it before resuming production. Apparently, they recognize there is an issue with the current design.

Here is the post that I got it from. I cant find the good post that shows a completely destroyed Protahne Six-Shooter coupler


https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...k-poly-or.html
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