C5 battery drain after 3 days
Last edited by GCG; Oct 13, 2019 at 12:00 PM.
Last edited by ruttrow; May 14, 2021 at 11:43 AM.
My 3 yr old Battery on my garage queen 02 Coupe would go from 12.7volts to about 12.2 volts after about 7-8 days of sitting idle.
Using Bills method i measured 0.04 amps or 40 miliamps..not bad but definitely drawing a bit too much.
I started by pulling fuses in the passenger footwell...(#3 Lumbar seat) and (#4 Drivers seat control module) one at atime and measuring amps each time..no change still drawing 40 miliamps.
Next pulled circuit beakers in the passenger footwell (#35 Drivers power seat) and (#36 Passenger Power seat)..one at a time and measuring amps each time...no change still drawing 40 miliamps.
Disconnected the headlight contol module that is located under the passenger headlight assembly...no change 40 miliamps...module was not warm to the touch either!
Went back to the fuse box in the passenger footwell..pulled fuse #5 for the radio...BINGO!! dropped down to 0.02 Amps... 20 Miliamps...Got ya!
Turns out it is the ISimple Ipod Adapter i installed 2 yrs ago that is drawing an extra 20 miliamps...This Unit is always on..12v constantly.
On the PXHGM4 harness for the IPOd adapter, the "always on" power wire is the brown wire... I will splice the brown wire into a "switched 12v" circuit to beat this battery drain issue.
Thanks Bill Curlee and 8VETTE7 for your pointers.
I most likely have the same issue, what wire should I splice the brown into for switched power?
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It also can be un,plugged from the harness to add or crimp on wires.
If it's virgin and never molested, it will have silver duct tape on the wires.
Battery draw: You need to obtain and learn to use a DC AMP METER to understand what is going on with your parasitec battery draw. The C5 has a constant 20 to 25 milliamp current draw. If the sleep/security mode draw current is higher than 25 ma. most batteries will drain quickly. Finding the excessive current draw offenders can sometimes be difficult. NOTE!! The C5 needs a battery that has a higher than normal RESERVE CAPACITY. These days, its difficult if not impossible to find a 75 group battery with the correct C5 designed 120 amp/hr RC rating. Switch to a quality 78 Group battery. The AGM batteries usually have a good RC but are a lot more expensive. The higher your battery RC rating is, the longer it will be able to sit without having a depleted battery. GM NOTE! Your owners manual states: If you need to store the vehicle for an extended period of time, disconnect and remove the battery.
Several ECU/PCM repair techs have noted and stated that leaving a battery on a battery tender for an excessive period of time is causing the electrolitic capacitors inside the ECUs/PCMs to swell and go bad.
of layers of velcro dots to raise the level to engage the switch. It has worked fine up until the past year. My battery is now dying after a few days of inactivity. I looked at
the previous fix and noticed a slight indentation in the velcro dot fix from all those years ago. So I added a few more layers and that seems to have once again fixed the problem.
Turned out to be the glove box light was staying on because the switch wasn't being pushed in far enough to turn it off when closed.
I took a self stick pad that goes on the bottom of chairs to keep from marring the floors and positioned it under the switch--problem solved.
Absolutely. I have a 2004 Corvette C5 Commemorative Edition. I constantly have this issue. If it sits for 3-5 days or more, the battery is dead. I have to jump it to start, drive it miles to charge the battery again. I've even replaced the battery twice.
I just asked Grok AI about it and got quite a lengthy scenario saying it's not uncommon on C5's - with a number of things to try.





Your C5 (97-04) is designed to draw very close to 0.025 AMPS - 25 milliamps from the battery all the time when the vehicle is in the SLEEP MODE. There can be a few more or a few less milliamps depending on the car and all still will be normal. The vehicle enters sleep mode between 3-12 minutes.after the ignition is turned off and the doors are shut. The 12-minute time out mark normally occurs if the BCM detects something like ( leaving a door/s open or the hood open with the hood light on. At the 12 min mark the Retained Accessory Power ( R.A.P.) relay will time out, turn off specific interior/exterior lighting loads and put the BCM into sleep mode. Sleep mode provides battery power to keep the BCM in the monitor and security mode, the RFA in the monitor mode and to keep the PCM volatile memory alive.to maintain (fuel trims, last good throttle blade idle position etc..)
Your C5 needs a battery that has a large RESERVE CAPACITY to meet the needs of the cars 25 ma sleep mode needs and the ability to sit in sleep mode for an extended period of time. Finding a battery that has the correct RC and fits in the C5 battery tray can be expensive and sometimes difficult to find. On a car battery, RC means Reserve Capacity, indicating how many minutes a fully charged battery can supply 25 amps at 80°F before its voltage drops below 10.5 volts. A group 78 AGM battery can be found with 100+ RC. The higher RC the better!
NOTE!! You can purchase a $300 high RC battery but if you have a large sleep current draw, it will still go dead. It will just take a little longer. CHECK AND DETERMINE YOUR SLEEP CURRENT DRAW! If you are not TESTING, you are GUESSING!!!
- Example:
A battery with 150 RC can run for 150 minutes (2.5 hours) at 25 amps before hitting 10.5V. Do the math. A 25 milliamp draw will allow the car to sit storred for a long time.
Determine the foot print measurement of an OEM size battery (L x W X H.) Normally you can find a physically larger foot print battery that can still fit inside the C5 battery tray. It can be a little longer, a little wider and a little taller and still fit. The physically larger battery will normally provide a higher RC.
You can switch to an (AGM) Absorbed Glass Mat battery with that larger foot print. Unless you live in a VERY COLD climate or have extremely high compression, CA & CCA is not as important as finding a battery with a larger RC.
The only modification that I had to do to my C5 battery tray to fit a larger foot print battery was to elongate the slot in the battery hold down foot.
HOW DO I DETERMINE MY SLEEP MODE CURRENT DRAW?
You must have a multimeter that has the ability to measure at least 10 AMPS. The multimeter meter MUST be set up to measure 0 -10 AMPS. The Amp meter leads MUST be connected in SERIES between the negative battery terminal and the negative battery cable!
NOTE! The Initial AMP METER connection will show a high amp reading (approx. 7-8 amps) and quickly drop. Completely normal. After a few minutes, the BCM will start turning off loads (shedding) and between 3 min-12-min the finial sleep current reading should be displayed.
If you use an AMP CLAMP Meter, you just clamp it around the NEG Battery cable. The - & + symbols on the current reading can be ignored and is not important. You can ignore them.
IF, the Sleep Mode Current draw reading is high, you have some electrical load/s inside the vehicle that the BCM failed to turn off OR remans ON once the car is secured. (IMHO, a high sleep mode reading is over 30 milliamps.) COMMON EXAMPLE; IF, you turn the dash dimmer **** fully CW, it will force the mirror lamps to remain ON until the battery is DEAD!!
FINDING THE ROOT CAUSE OF EXCESIVE CURRENT DRAW:
There are several common causes that can cause excessive current draw. I will list a few BUT, please don’t think that this list is the only things in your C5 that can cause excessive current draw:
- Dimmer Switch turned fully CW.
- Boes Stereo Amplifier fails to turn off.
- Added accessory wired to a hot all the time source.
- Rear window defroster fails to turn off.
- R.A.P. relay fails to turn off/time out.
- Head light door motor control module fails to turn off when bucket reaches its fully closed or fully open limit. Feel the module. If it’s warm, its possibly faulty.
- Alternator bridge diode rectifier goes bad and continuously draws current.
- Interior lights fail to turn off after car is locked. Check car at night to look for lights that remain on
- Seat control motors are continuously trying to move the seat
- Seat Lumbar pump motor running
- Water inside a connector or on a circuit board causing corrosion (green crusties) and drawing current.
REMEMBER! CURRENT flow causes HEAT. If something is warm or hot to the touch when the car is in sleep mode, that component is drawing current.
PULL FUSES UNTIL THE CURRENT DRAW REDUCES TO SPEC:
Pull fuses until you see the excessive current draw to fall to spec. NOTE! Do not pull the BCM, PCM or RFA fuses. They are the main contributors to that expected 25ma sleep current reading.
This link explains how to read a millivolt reading across any fuse and calculate accurate current draw readings on that circuit. It’s very accurate and easily identifies circuits under load. There are numerous videos on how to conduct this test. This is just one example:
LAST BUT NOT LEAST! As C5 DIAG Stated, " If you have no electrical diagnostic experience to find out where your parasitic drain is coming from seek out an automotive electrical shop...the more often your battery goes dead you will need another new one !!"
I hope this helps someone.
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