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Old Aug 26, 2017 | 10:50 PM
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Hello to all at Corvette Forum! This is my first post and let me start by saying how much I've learned from you folks.
Last year I bought a C5-04 with the LS-1 engine. It's been a great ride. The previous owner really looked after it and anyone who's worked on it says it's in really good condition-an excellent buy!
Here's my problem: I was doing some engine detailing and the number 5 spark plug broke at the boot which fits over the plug. I pulled back the metal heat cover, and attempted to twisted it back and forth. Well it broke. Here's the part where the stupid owners became even more STUPID. I kept pulling on it and it came out partially in pieces!
So the boot is now halfway inside the metal barrel, unreachable with a needle nose pliers.
I'm not driving my car to the dealership running on 7 cylinders. I have CAA service so I would prefer to flat bed it. I bought this car with 50k. Everything looks OEM so I can see a new set of wires might be in order. I've done that many times. Does anyone have any suggestions for this stupid Canadian? Many thanks!
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If I'm reading you right the ceramic part of your spark plug broke off? It's a totally salvageable situation. Just put a socket on what is left and remove the rest of the plug, reinstall a new one. If you are talking about the spark plug wire broken off inside the metal barrel, just remove the whole plug wire and install a new set. The GMPP red wires are supposed to be good.
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Old Aug 26, 2017 | 11:58 PM
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If I'm reading you right the ceramic part of your spark plug broke off? It's a totally salvageable situation. Just put a socket on what is left and remove the rest of the plug, reinstall a new one. If you are talking about the spark plug wire broken off inside the metal barrel, just remove the whole plug wire and install a new set. The GMPP red wires are supposed to be good.
Many thanks for your response. I Must apologize For not describing it properly.
The wire broke the at rubber boot that fits into that metal heat resistant tube. The rubber boot covers the spark plug. The boot has a hex type design. The metal cylinder has a spring which you push back. So, you first push back the metal cylinder and wiggle the rubber boot and it should pull right out. What I did was exactly that but I broke the boot. Half of it is still in the cylinder and I can't get at to pull the rest of it out. I was using a needle nose plier and I guess I cut it trying to wiggle it out. I hope that helps.
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Old Aug 27, 2017 | 10:08 AM
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So is the boot still attached to the plug? Is the metal barrel attached to the boot? A picture might help. We'll figure this out.
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Old Aug 27, 2017 | 05:31 PM
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Hey twokbolt! No the boot is what I mangaled. I can see the top of.the sparkplug, surrounded by what's left of the boot which of course is encased by the metal cylinder. That spring loaded cylinder as near as I tell looks as if's attached at the sparkplug thread.
I'm going to try something different tomorrow. I'm going to see if I can take a knife or a razor and cut the rubber around the plug. I'll let you how it turns out.
Thanks again twokbolt!!!
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There are some smaller hose pullers (almost like long pliers but with a curved end). This type of puller might help.
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When changed my wires last month I had to use some pliers to pull most of the metal casings off. They were stuck pretty good due to being in place for awhile due to heat and time. I just grabbed the lip of the casing and gave em a tug and they popped right off. It's tight down there but doable.
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Hey Guy's! Thanks so much for your info. And yes, it appears the heat resistant metal cylinder should just pull out. I'm giving that a go tomorrow and I'll post.
Thanks again for your help!!!
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When changed my wires last month I had to use some pliers to pull most of the metal casings off. They were stuck pretty good due to being in place for awhile due to heat and time. I just grabbed the lip of the casing and gave em a tug and they popped right off. It's tight down there but doable.
Yes sir! That seems to be the problem. I bought my C5 with about 50K. I believe I'm trying to remove original OEM Parts.
Thanks again! (I'm starting to feel "Less Stupid")
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Originally Posted by Canadaboy54
Hey Guy's! Thanks so much for your info. And yes, it appears the heat resistant metal cylinder should just pull out. I'm giving that a go tomorrow and I'll post.
Thanks again for your help!!!
You might want to use pics...."a picture is worth a thousand words" and try real hard to remove the word...dealership from your vocabulary. Most things that happen to Vettes, has happened to us (Forum members)
and you will get great direction here.
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Sounds like the perfect time to replace all spark plugs and wires.
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Old Aug 28, 2017 | 09:21 AM
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Don't feel bad for breaking the plug wire. It seems like a common occurrence for them to get brittle from age and heat. A new set is in order. Also change out the plugs while you're in there👍🏼

If the metal heat shield that shrouds the boot down by the spark plug is still attached, you can use a set of long needle nose pliers (I use a set of Duralast 11" 45 degree bent-tip needle noses from Auto Zone) to grab the shield and pull it and the remaining piece of the boot off the plug. The spark plug end of the heat shield is smaller than the end of the boot that is inside of it, so when you pull the shield the boot will come out with it.

It will probably be tight so you'll need to wiggle it quite a bit with the pliers before it will come off. I grab ahold of the sides of the shield, not the lip. Grabbing the lip might also work though. Best of luck!

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Just grip the metal heat shield with plyers and HEAVE HO... It will pop off. the rubber boot will most likely be the difficult part.

The GM Performance Red Wires are excellent. I would replace the OEM spark plugs with another set of OEM Plugs. Even though it early, the new plugs will give you a better idle quality and a little more overall efficiency.

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Hey All! This problem boiled down to simply pulling the heat resistant metal cylinder surrounding the boot and the plug. And to give it a Real Good Pull!!! What gave this thing a bit of mystery was I had to pull not just the cylinder but the carcass of the boot surrounding the plug. If I wasn't convinced this was original I am now. It was really tough to pull it out. I'm going to turn this over to my garage. New plugs and wires for my C5.
Thanks to all for taking an interest in this issue. It's really appreciated!
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Just grip the metal heat shield with plyers and HEAVE HO... It will pop off. the rubber boot will most likely be the difficult part.

The GM Performance Red Wires are excellent. I would replace the OEM spark plugs with another set of OEM Plugs. Even though it early, the new plugs will give you a better idle quality and a little more overall efficiency.

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Hey Bill. Thanks for your response. I did just that and Yes it was tough but I got it out. And it's off to the shop for new wires and plugs.
Thanks again for your interest!
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