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Old Sep 1, 2017 | 10:39 AM
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I went to the race track the other day and had lots of fun. I will be going back but I need some help with the rear end. I don't like waiting for something to break, I'm more of a preventative maintenance kind of a person. So what can I do to strengthen the rear end to take some abuse. Do I go all out with an rpm transaxle or do a trans brace and mounts. Also read about taking the guts from a c6 and putting them in there. I just want something reliable when I'm beating the car up at the track. If it matters I'm at 440whp and 400wtq with a monster stage 3 clutch. Thanks for the input and advice.
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I went to the race track the other day and had lots of fun. I will be going back but I need some help with the rear end. I don't like waiting for something to break, I'm more of a preventative maintenance kind of a person. So what can I do to strengthen the rear end to take some abuse. Do I go all out with an rpm transaxle or do a trans brace and mounts. Also read about taking the guts from a c6 and putting them in there. I just want something reliable when I'm beating the car up at the track. If it matters I'm at 440whp and 400wtq with a monster stage 3 clutch. Thanks for the input and advice.
Its good that you are looking into the future and preventing $$$$$$ from evaporating from the wallet!

Here are some things that you can do to help prevent wheel hop and drivetrain shake. Two things that will surely make things break. I here ya as I'm at 450 RWHP and wanted to do the same thing that you are looking into.

- New/improved differential mount I used the PFADT design that spreads out the loading onto the k member.

- New/Improved engine mounts.

- Better shocks I used GM C6 ZO6 shocks on my 02 ZO6! EXCELLENT!!

- ECS Trans/DIFF Brace

- Install C6 ZO6 differential output shafts, clutches, Belleview Springs. Here are the post that detail that procedure.:

- C5, ragtopws6 , Upgrading your C5 rear with C6 Z06 guts, : http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...-z06-guts.html
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- C5, Its_Go_Time, Output Shaft Install - Left and Right: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...post1573407966

- C5 Differential Seal replacement: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...on-photos.html
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Run bias ply instead of drag radials the softer sidewall will be easier on drivetrain

As mentioned c6z guts, output shafts, clutches and pinion support there is a kit on ebay with everything you need, also do the diff/trans brace
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an even stronger option would be a drivetrain swap from an 08+ z06, zr1, or manual grand sport
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No matter what internals you use the case is still the weak point.

In a way, it's almost better to break the stock weak differential output shaft which typically does no other damage. Strengthen the differential and you'll likely break the transmission output shaft which destroys the differential and also requires transmission work.

Certainly do anything you can to avoid wheel hop.

The smoothness of the driver can certainly affect the life of the drivetrain.
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Run bias ply instead of drag radials the softer sidewall will be easier on drivetrain

As mentioned c6z guts, output shafts, clutches and pinion support there is a kit on ebay with everything you need, also do the diff/trans brace
NOTE!! If you replace the PINION SUPPORT, you will need to set up the difrential. Replacing the output shafts, clutches and springs, does NOT require any set up procedures.

I had my MN12 converted to a MN12/T60/60 with a hardened output shaft.

Strengthing up the other weak points, taking the floppy mounts out and replacing them with better mounts and driver awareness results in excellent results.

I agree! You can still split a C5 case.
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how much does the brace really help and can you get it on in the car?
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Thanks for all the input. Probably start sourcing out a brace on mount for now and see where that gets me.
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how much does the brace really help and can you get it on in the car?
If your drag racing then it's another part to help strengthen driveline but if it's just a street car then it's not really needed and yes it can be installed with driveline in the car
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Who's got some in stock. Looked at a few places online but sold out? Thanks.
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Have you tried westcoastcorvettes I think it's listed under trans brace or trans strut brace or something similar

since you have a 99 it probably has a 1 rib diff, you would be better off finding a 3 rib to build if your going to do internal modifications and you might want to go with a different gear ratio also

when I first started going to track a few years ago I had cam and fast intake and ls7 clutch making about 430, stock rear end no trans brace only 26" bias ply tires, I probably made between 40-50 passes that year launching between 6-6600 rpm, I had no issues with rear end, launching high gets my tires spinning a few revolutions before they hook, you don't want to launch too low and dead hook that's when you break things

I think it just comes down to how often your going to be racing and how much you want to spend, if it's just a few times a year then would just leave it as it unless something breaks. The best thing I can suggest is get a bias ply setup and go from there
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Who's got some in stock. Looked at a few places online but sold out? Thanks.
Have you called East Coast Supercharging (ECS)??

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Bringing it back. Car is in hibernation now so time to work on it. Going to get a trans brace and diff brace. I don't go to the track too much so I'll just keep street tires. Question tho. Is it harder on drivetrain to wheel hop or dead hook? Thanks
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Bringing it back. Car is in hibernation now so time to work on it. Going to get a trans brace and diff brace. I don't go to the track too much so I'll just keep street tires. Question tho. Is it harder on drivetrain to wheel hop or dead hook? Thanks
Wheel hop is harder on the drive train the dead hooking.
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Thanks Doug. What's the going rate for a trans brace and mount?
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http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.co...ategory_id=152
and for a Diff mount I used this
https://afepower.com/afe-power-450-4...smission-mount
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Thanks Doug. What's the going rate for a trans brace and mount?

Good timing, we just changed our pricing for black Friday.
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Good timing, we just changed our pricing for black Friday.
Hmmm, Must be time for me to go shopping again
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Bill, the first thread, about c6 guts, photos no work. The second one with output shafts I get. Would just doing the output shafts be worthwhile or just save up and do the whole rebuild? Thanks
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