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Old Nov 30, 2017 | 07:19 AM
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Helping a friend with a C5. It been sitting for about a year outside. Any things to be concerned about other than the normal stuff like putting some oil (Marvel Mystery oil) in the cylinders hand crank the engine a little before attempting start-up? Stabilizer was added to the fuel so we're hoping that there's no problem as far as fuel delivery goes.
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Old Nov 30, 2017 | 09:00 AM
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Personally I wouldn't pull the plugs to oil cylinders - you'll only end up with broken ignition wires.

If you're concerned about building oil pressure just disable fuel and crank it with the starter. Turning it over by hand won't build any oil pressure. If you have any damage it's there now - turning it over by hand isn't going to do anything less than just cranking it. The time to oil the cylinders was when storing it a year ago with fogging oil.

Also as an aside - many people turn engines over by using the crank bolt. Depending on the engine you can end up with a broken off crank bolt because some applications aren't meant to have that kind of stress on the bolt. Just food for thought as you work on other engines in your travels.

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Old Nov 30, 2017 | 09:18 AM
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I'd pull the fuel pump relay (to disable fuel delivery) and depressurized the fuel rail at the Schrader valve. Then, I'd crank it with the starter for a 30 second burst, waiting 3 minutes between bursts, until I see oil pressure on the gauge. Then, put the fuel pump relay in and you're good to go.

When doing an oil change, I do that to get fresh oil in the system after the oil change, before firing the engine up. Alternatively, for an oil change (or for now), you can disconnect the crank position sensor, to prevent ignition, or pull the ECM fuse that energized the ECM and the coils, if it will still crank with that fuse out.

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Old Nov 30, 2017 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by C6_Racer_X
I'd pull the fuel pump relay (to disable fuel delivery) and depressurized the fuel rail at the Schrader valve. Then, I'd crank it with the starter for a 30 second burst, waiting 3 minutes between bursts, until I see oil pressure on the gauge. Then, put the fuel pump relay in and you're good to go.

When doing an oil change, I do that to get fresh oil in the system after the oil change, before firing the engine up. Alternatively, for an oil change (or for now), you can disconnect the crank position sensor, to prevent ignition, or pull the ECM fuse that energized the ECM and the coils, if it will still crank with that fuse out.
hmmm, I wonder if they do that at jiffy lube or the dealer???
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Old Nov 30, 2017 | 11:17 AM
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hmmm, I wonder if they do that at jiffy lube or the dealer???
I wouldn't know.

I also usually fill the new oil filter with oil before installing it, provided the placement of the filter allows for that.

My general rule, after an oil change, is I don't run the engine (with spark and fuel) until there's oil in all the bearings. I crank without spark and/or without fuel until I see pressure on the gauge, or until the idiot light goes off if that's all it has.
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Old Nov 30, 2017 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by C6_Racer_X
I wouldn't know.

I also usually fill the new oil filter with oil before installing it, provided the placement of the filter allows for that.

My general rule, after an oil change, is I don't run the engine (with spark and fuel) until there's oil in all the bearings. I crank without spark and/or without fuel until I see pressure on the gauge, or until the idiot light goes off if that's all it has.
wow, for the last 45 years I just drain it refill (I do fill the filter) and go on....
No problems here
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Old Nov 30, 2017 | 09:30 PM
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I believe if you press the throttle to full wide open before you press start , that will shut of the injectors and turn the engine over, just let off the button before letting off the gas. It works on my C6...
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All this reminds me of the command module restart sequence in "Apollo 13".
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Old Dec 1, 2017 | 07:41 AM
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A year isn't that long. Just fire it up. Do you think dealers and other places go through this with a car sitting for a long time? Heck, motorhomes sit for months on end in dealer lots and they fire right up. Unless you suspect there has been a water intrusion into the motor fire it up then change the oil.
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Old Dec 1, 2017 | 07:43 AM
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1 year isn't that long a period of time. I've started old Corvettes that have sat alot longer with no heroics. Fresh gas and a battery charge and turn the key. That's all I would do.
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Old Dec 1, 2017 | 11:36 AM
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I wouldn't even do the fresh gas if it were close to full. New battery, start and drive away.

One year is nothing!!

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Old Dec 1, 2017 | 08:49 PM
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If I did anything special I would disconnect the harness to the injectors turn it over for a few seconds, reconnect and fire it off.

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Originally Posted by 93Polo
If I did anything special I would disconnect the harness to the injectors turn it over for a few seconds, reconnect and fire it off.
Isn't that what the flood start procedure is? Hold throttle wide open before turning over the starter ,will shut of the injectors? Engine will spin without firing? Am I wrong on this?
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Old Dec 1, 2017 | 08:58 PM
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This effectively does everything except fire vehicle including running the oil pump...
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Old Dec 1, 2017 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jdvann
Isn't that what the flood start procedure is? Hold throttle wide open before turning over the starter ,will shut of the injectors? Engine will spin without firing? Am I wrong on this?
I don't know about the flood start procedure and holding the throttle down.

I was basically priming the motor as everything has drained to the pan. You could pull the fuel pump fuse but I am always hesitant that I actually found the correct fuse. I believe you can trace the wires and disconnect the injector harnesses under the hood relatively easily on all C5s.

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Another one who would just make sure the battery is charged and start it without doing anything else.
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Originally Posted by sofast
Another one who would just make sure the battery is charged and start it without doing anything else.
Good point about the battery. After sitting for a year, I'd think that the battery in a C-5 would be pretty much toast. Maybe a brand new battery would be in order.....
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Wonder what happened? The OP hasn't been back on since the morning of the post.
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Originally Posted by capevettes
Wonder what happened? The OP hasn't been back on since the morning of the post.
Looks like he was only in C5 to help his friend. Most posts are in C3. Still... always like to see results.
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