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Old Jan 8, 2018 | 09:14 PM
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If anyone does happen to figure it out let me know!
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Old Jan 10, 2018 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by hatewhatownsyou
You may be able to drill new holes in the spindle closer to the center to mount the v calipers, but the mount gets thinner closer to the center so there won’t be a surface to mount to.

Where did you get that model? I was trying to find one because I was tossing around the idea of making myself custom spindles to mount v calipers to.
I would not drill the spindle and put load on a point the engineers never intended to carry the stresses of a bracket.

I did have a MovIT kit which cut off the upper ear and mounted the upper bracket using the bearing pack bolt to mount Brembo Big Reds off a Porsche. They did use the lower ear to mount the bracket.

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Old Jan 10, 2018 | 10:10 AM
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There is no denying the sex appeal of the V calipers but my stock C5 units (with aggressive track pads) just about rip my face off.
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Old Jan 10, 2018 | 10:14 AM
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now custom spindles just for those calipers is getting a little silly, unless of course you have access to that kind of machinery, then you could incorporate the drop geometry like the LG pieces.

If you just imagine a bracket similar to this:






that offsets the mounting location towards the spindle centerline, and also lowers the caliper (so you can tell people you improved the center of gravity). it would make for an easy, bolt on solution. assuming there is enough room to push the bracket in before hitting the spindle.

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Old Jan 10, 2018 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by nsogiba
There is no denying the sex appeal of the V calipers but my stock C5 units (with aggressive track pads) just about rip my face off.
I agree, the stock brakes are pretty great, and much like the car is faster than I can drive, it stops the same way.

I'm only interested in this because it looks cool, and its a BBK you can buy pads and rotors for at autozone for peanuts
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Old Jan 10, 2018 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by work_truck
now custom spindles just for those calipers is getting a little silly, unless of course you have access to that kind of machinery, then you could incorporate the drop geometry like the LG pieces.

If you just imagine a bracket similar to this:






that offsets the mounting location towards the spindle centerline, and also lowers the caliper (so you can tell people you improved the center of gravity). it would make for an easy, bolt on solution. assuming there is enough room to push the bracket in before hitting the spindle.

I make Molds and prototype parts for a living and program a 5 axis so for me it’s no big deal.

In order to use a bracket like you suggest the mounting location of the caliper mount will be moved towards the engine, which I’m not sure if is possible since the caliper must remain in the center of the rotor.

Maybe you can pull it off but I don’t think you will be able to.
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Old Jan 10, 2018 | 10:48 AM
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I'm going to pivot here after looking some more and thinking like a responsible person.

BOTH front CTSV1 calipers (4pot) can be purchased new for less than the price of 1 6pot.

this caliper on the f body can be ran with an OEM C6z rotor.

I think that this route will be a better proof of concept for me. as if this combination works, then I would be able to simply upgrade the front rotors and calipers if I ever saw fit.
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Old Jan 10, 2018 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by hatewhatownsyou
I make Molds and prototype parts for a living and program a 5 axis so for me it’s no big deal.

In order to use a bracket like you suggest the mounting location of the caliper mount will be moved towards the engine, which I’m not sure if is possible since the caliper must remain in the center of the rotor.

Maybe you can pull it off but I don’t think you will be able to.
Ah I see what you mean, you're worried about the flat bracket,

I was talking more about the mounting locations from a straight on view.

Your concern is still easily solved, although not as simple of a part. It would be similar to the GTO bracket, or the old rear bracket for the G8 brembo swap






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Old Jan 10, 2018 | 11:08 AM
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here is a link to the grabcad page with spindle model.

https://grabcad.com/library/corvette-c5-control-arms-1

Vettemod com also has a model of the rear spindle.


With these two it should be fairly simple to design a bracket.
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Old Jan 10, 2018 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by work_truck
here is a link to the grabcad page with spindle model.

https://grabcad.com/library/corvette-c5-control-arms-1

Vettemod com also has a model of the rear spindle.


With these two it should be fairly simple to design a bracket.
I’ve tried that model before but it’s an STL, sadly it is basically useless to me. They can’t be modified like a regular solid 3d file.
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Old Jan 10, 2018 | 11:55 AM
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 10:37 AM
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Pivot #367

250$ 6 piston radial mount Brembo calipers, that should fit perfectly around a 15” ctsv2 rotor
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 10:42 AM
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FR3Z2B120G

GT350R calipers!

I think Brembo even makes a caliper bracket for a direct bolt on, but measurements would confirm.

Rear would still need sorting as well.
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by work_truck
FR3Z2B120G

GT350R calipers!

I think Brembo even makes a caliper bracket for a direct bolt on, but measurements would confirm.

Rear would still need sorting as well.



There’s a handful of calipers out there like this, I think some big brake kits utilize a caliper like this with a bracket.


Checkout Acura TL type s calipers, they are only 4 pot but have close mounting holes.
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 2001CamaroGuy
Question: How do any of these calipers (C5/C6Z06/CTS-V/Wilwood) compare to the Brembo produced radial mount 4 piston calipers which come on the Porsche 911/996. Yes, they will require a custom bracket but their performance is amazing (never heard of any Porsche guys complaining about their brakes).
Originally Posted by work_truck
I agree, the stock brakes are pretty great, and much like the car is faster than I can drive, it stops the same way.

I'm only interested in this because it looks cool, and its a BBK you can buy pads and rotors for at autozone for peanuts
The MovIt kit I mention on my C5 was a very noticeable upgrade over factory. It used the Brembo Big Red calipers with 322mm Porsche rings using a custom hat on the 2 piece rotor.

The kit TCE posted from Wilwood can be run with OEM rotors. The front only kit is very reasonably priced. Essex also has a kit which can be run with OEM rotors. I believe the pad shapes for both calipers is rather common. The pads also lasted longer on my MovIt BBK and I would expect the same from the Essex and Wilwoods kits.

I understand the desire to use OEM parts which one of the reasons I liked the MovIt kit but getting a set of pads for the aftermarket calipers isn't a major problem these days. If I had a daily driver C5, I would be very interested in the Wilwood kit.

As a hotrodder I do applaud the effort to make your own BBK.
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by hatewhatownsyou
There’s a handful of calipers out there like this, I think some big brake kits utilize a caliper like this with a bracket.


Checkout Acura TL type s calipers, they are only 4 pot but have close mounting holes.
Yes, they are a radial mount caliper, which in fact is very common.

The 3 main differences are that the GT350R caliper is the same one available on the Brembo GT kit;

It allows a 15” CTSV2 rotor;

It’s only $250 per side.

Right now, I like where this is going! Also, formatting on mobile sucks!

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Old Jan 15, 2018 | 08:12 AM
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Got this c6 knuckle with hub (!) for 79$ shipped on ebay. seems like a decent deal for something to use on mockups.




Next question will really be what calipers to shoot for.

My goal is OEM parts (chevy or otherwise).

Brembos are huge and cool, but what about something like these C7 z51 calipers for 575$?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/C7-CORVETTE....c100226.m3208

I think I may start with the CTSV2 rotor ((since I'd really like that 15" (thats what she said)) and then work my way backwards.
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Old Jan 15, 2018 | 07:01 PM
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you can do what i did and put front brakes on the rear

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...brake-kit.html
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Old Jan 16, 2018 | 07:57 AM
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Does anyone know what the rear rotor ID is? for the parking brake?
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Old Jan 16, 2018 | 09:18 AM
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closer again:

C6 ZR1 caliper is a bolt on solution, and AZ sells remans for like 150$ a corner.

The problem is the rotor!

15.5" diameter is hard to come by, and expensive. I thought the only option was the zr1 CCB or one of the aftermarket iron replacements.

c7 z07 Iron rotor is ~$400 each (front, ac delco) (cheaper on Rockauto it looks like)

I need to see if Autozone can special order the calipers for me

The c7z07 rotor, on the other hand could also answer my prayers for a solution with the GT350R caliper.





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