C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Won't turnover problem.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 04:59 PM
  #1  
onebad95z's Avatar
onebad95z
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 192
Likes: 1
From: indiana
Default Won't turnover problem.

Ok, I'm having a problem with my zo6. Sadly I've made it to the point to where it is now at the dealer! I have never taken any of the camaros or corvettes I've owned there. But I'm stumped. The zo6 has an iron block, tick performance transmission, evil performance reared, and is procharged. The dealer keeps bringing it up and I'm not sure it relates to the problem. I pulled up to the gas pump, put gas in car and then when I tried to start, it would turnover but not start. I towed it home, started checking fuel system because the fuel pump wasn't kicking on. I then read dic and erased. Since that time car will not even turnover. Starter is fine can turn motor over directly from starter so it's not the issue. I then changed out the ignition and removed the vats with my hp tuner. Still doing same thing. I checked all grounds, and now the dealer has as well. They are saying everything points to a bad bcm, but because of mods there not sure and the price is 1800 dollars. They also said the bcm has to be programmed to my car but my cars programming isn't factory so they are kinda lost. I see on forums bcm's for sale for a lot cheaper, but dealer is saying they can't program one unless it comes from them. Any knowledge on this would be appreciated and especially any knowledge on a bcm and how to program them. As of right now I'm ordering a vats key and going to put vats back in the pcm before anything else.

Last edited by onebad95z; Feb 19, 2018 at 05:00 PM. Reason: New title
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 08:56 PM
  #2  
Paul Wood's Avatar
Paul Wood
Pro
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 593
Likes: 9
From: San Antonio Texas
Default

KISS. Keep It Simple Stupid! Same thing happened to me. I went through all sorts of diagnostics but finally did what I suggest to you. Mine turned out to be a loose connection on the negative battery side post. You did not mention battery health but that would be where I would start. BCMs can fail like that but likely it's something simple. Start from square one and be diligent about what you are doing. Good luck.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 09:01 PM
  #3  
onebad95z's Avatar
onebad95z
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 192
Likes: 1
From: indiana
Default Won't turnover problem.

Thank you for your suggestion. Yes all grounds including battery have been checked thoroughly by myself and the dealer. Battery is 6 months old so it's good.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 09:33 PM
  #4  
Paul Wood's Avatar
Paul Wood
Pro
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 593
Likes: 9
From: San Antonio Texas
Default

Not to belabor the point but there are many instances where batteries were assumed good because they were new. Before I discount the possibility I would put a multimeter across the terminals. If you don't have at least 12.6 volts you need to charge the battery. Don't rely on the DIC as that is not battery voltage but rather alternator output. Be diligent and make sure you have good information before you move to more exotic solutions. Don't mean to sound condescending but I have seen very experienced mechanics miss simple fixes INCLUDING me!!
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 09:40 PM
  #5  
Bill Curlee's Avatar
Bill Curlee
Tech Contributor
Supporting Lifetime Gold
Veteran: Navy
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 32,910
Likes: 2,402
From: Anthony TX
CI 6,7,8,9,11 Vet
St. Jude Donor '08
Default

Please CHECK AND LIST THE DTCs.

I have a hunch is a corrupted serial data buss (which is easily resolvable) BUT,, I need to see the listed DTCs to be more sure.

The BS about not being able to program a BCM is WRONG!!

You cna program ANY BCM as long as its been synced with the PCM (handsake)

Bill
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 09:54 PM
  #6  
onebad95z's Avatar
onebad95z
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 192
Likes: 1
From: indiana
Default Won't turnover problem.

The dealer said the code is 2721. Since that from my understanding can be do to vats, I ordered a new key and am going to install the vats back in with my hp tuner. I have checked the voltage and in winter it gets put on a battery tender. I can go directly to started and make the engine turnover just not with the ignition switch.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 09:56 PM
  #7  
onebad95z's Avatar
onebad95z
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 192
Likes: 1
From: indiana
Default Won't turnover problem.

Sad thing is I figured taking it to dealer it would happen, but because it's not stock they act as if it's an alien or something.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2018 | 12:05 AM
  #8  
tondelayo's Avatar
tondelayo
Intermediate
10 Year Member
Veteran: Army
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 47
Likes: 4
From: Huntington Park CA
Default Check fuse 14 under passenger side floor panel, bat volt, TDR

Check fuse 14 under the passenger side footwell.

I wasted a week of troubleshooting while I was getting a bad chest cold because I pulled that blown fuse and somehow did not replace it... it controls the starter motor circuit.

Battery voltage between battery + and - with negative terminal disconnected on a fully charged battery will be about 12.7V. Anything around 12.0V or less, charge the battery up fully.

Also, above the BCM in the footwell is the TDR, Theft Deterrent Relay. If you jumper between the red and purple large wires with #12 house wire at the bottom of the relay socket and it cranks, it may be a bad TDR. Easy to check. Google for images and locations.

Check the simple stuff you *assume* must be OK before *assuming* BCM or other deep, expensive problems as I did.

Hope this helps,
Sal




Originally Posted by onebad95z
Ok, I'm having a problem with my zo6. Sadly I've made it to the point to where it is now at the dealer! I have never taken any of the camaros or corvettes I've owned there. But I'm stumped. The zo6 has an iron block, tick performance transmission, evil performance reared, and is procharged. The dealer keeps bringing it up and I'm not sure it relates to the problem. I pulled up to the gas pump, put gas in car and then when I tried to start, it would turnover but not start. I towed it home, started checking fuel system because the fuel pump wasn't kicking on. I then read dic and erased. Since that time car will not even turnover. Starter is fine can turn motor over directly from starter so it's not the issue. I then changed out the ignition and removed the vats with my hp tuner. Still doing same thing. I checked all grounds, and now the dealer has as well. They are saying everything points to a bad bcm, but because of mods there not sure and the price is 1800 dollars. They also said the bcm has to be programmed to my car but my cars programming isn't factory so they are kinda lost. I see on forums bcm's for sale for a lot cheaper, but dealer is saying they can't program one unless it comes from them. Any knowledge on this would be appreciated and especially any knowledge on a bcm and how to program them. As of right now I'm ordering a vats key and going to put vats back in the pcm before anything else.
Attached Images  
Attached Images

Last edited by tondelayo; Feb 20, 2018 at 12:15 AM. Reason: adding images
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Won't turnover problem.

Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:39 PM.

story-0
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-2
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE