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Old Apr 14, 2018 | 05:08 PM
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Give it a try!
Thanks a bunch, especially for the pics.

I know my limitations and giving it a go is probably beyond them. I've tried doing some stuff on the car, and it always takes me way longer than it should, mostly because I'm nervous that I'll do more damage than good.

This might be worth spending some cash so a professional does it right.

It's an 01 vert with the a4.
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Old Apr 14, 2018 | 05:36 PM
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Now that you mentioned you have headers, the possibility of having bad contacts at the starter solenoid becomes very likely because of the inherent extra heat.

I understand that perhaps you think this is beyond your skills, but just jack it up or use ramps if you have them, and take a look... then make a decision according to what you see
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Old Apr 14, 2018 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GCG
Now that you mentioned you have headers, the possibility of having bad contacts at the starter solenoid becomes very likely because of the inherent extra heat.

I understand that perhaps you think this is beyond your skills, but just jack it up or use ramps if you have them, and take a look... then make a decision according to what you see
For the sake of argument, let's say I don't chicken out. Is there anything I can do to avoid the extra heat issue? Am I going to have to unbolt the headers to get to the solenoid contacts?
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Old Apr 14, 2018 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeffislouie
Thanks.
I have kooks headers and a BB exhaust.

That grease/oil didn't appear to be dielectric. It looked like splashed oil and dirt. I applied dielectric after I cleaned them.
Ah, good work! See, you're better at this than you thought! My headers are Kooks as well. Believe it or not it was actually pretty easy to get it undone and out of the way. I didn't pull it completely out, but it acted like it would drop right out the bottom if I wanted it to.

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For the sake of argument, let's say I don't chicken out. Is there anything I can do to avoid the extra heat issue? Am I going to have to unbolt the headers to get to the solenoid contacts?
You could wrap the headers, but that would require them both to be out. You could also shield the wires with heat sleeve. That will require some room to work and you'll most likely find it easiest with the header out of the way. As for removing them...

Remove plug wires from plugs.
This could be challenging depending on how long they've been on. You may end up needing plugs and wires.

Remove spark plugs.

Loosen clamp that connects header to X pipe.

Remove header bolts.

I removed that little plastic shield that goes around the battery as well. I took it out because of the battery and wiring stuff I was doing, but I bet having it out makes for quite a bit more room.

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Old Apr 14, 2018 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeffislouie
...Is there anything I can do to avoid the extra heat issue...
You could also try one of those starter heat shields from DEI (7" x 24"):

1) Versa Shield (500°F direct and 2000°F radiant):


2) Starter Shield Ultra 47 Series (1350°F direct):


3) Starter Shield Onyx Series (1350°F direct):


Or one like this from Lingenfelter:

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Old Apr 15, 2018 | 05:55 PM
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Try using heat duct tape and tie straps to hold them out of the way...


I wrapped all wires around the headers...
at the starter, fire wall ect....
no burned wires in just over a year.

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Old Apr 15, 2018 | 05:58 PM
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Just wrap them all....both sides...
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Old Apr 15, 2018 | 06:07 PM
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Something to keep in mind is that you can basically add grounds anywhere you please. Like if I thought my battery -> engine block was poor, I could simply add another one to another spot on the engine block where I knew it was good. You can go from battery - negative terminal to almost any bare metal in the chassis to "improve" upon grounding. The chassis connects to the engine through engine mount bolts; thus the starter is grounded to the engine, through the engine block, to the chassis, to the battery.

Another example, my negative battery terminal is in the trunk where my battery is. So it grounds to the spare tire well. yet the starter has no trouble cranking over by using the chassis as a huge cable to the get to the actual cable in the trunk.

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