Spark Plugs
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Spark Plugs
I just changed the sparks plugs after 35K and noticed they are frosted white at the tips and around the edges. What does this tell me?
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Take a look at this link for more info.
BURNED
Blisters on the insulator tip, melted electrodes, or white deposits are signs of a burned spark plug that is running too hot. Causes can include the engine overheating, incorrect spark plug heat range, a loose spark plug, incorrect ignition timing or too lean of an air/fuel mixture. The spark plug should be replaced.
Blisters on the insulator tip, melted electrodes, or white deposits are signs of a burned spark plug that is running too hot. Causes can include the engine overheating, incorrect spark plug heat range, a loose spark plug, incorrect ignition timing or too lean of an air/fuel mixture. The spark plug should be replaced.
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install a wideband but that will only show the afr for the bank it's installed on, it won't narrow down specific cylinders... were all of your plugs this way?
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Irridium plugs are just a way to get more of your money with absolutlley no benefit
All thsese new metal plugs are just a hoax---If you talk to Nascar teams they use simple copper core plugs no matter what they advertize on their car---A copper core plug gets rid of heat far better than any other plug--Yes these new metal plugs may last longer but they are not the best choice for removing heat from your plug tip---In my 40 plus years of racing experience the bet plug you can buy is the NGK and on a C5 LS1 it would be a TR55 plug gapped at .040 NOT .060 as GM previously reccomended
The NGK plug with it;s cadium metal is the easiest plug to read if you know how to read plugs "old school" Typically you read timimg by how far up the strap the color change occurs--Ideally with new plugs or NGK plugs you would want the color change to be on the BEND of the strap--If the change is further towards the tip-- you need more timing--If the color change is towards the threads-- you have too much timing-----This is old school timing rules that are relevant even on a LS engine
As far as AFR goes you want the color on the center porcelain to be only about 1/8 to 1/4 of an inch off the bottom center electrode--- If the color is beyond that it is too rich and vice versa
All thsese new metal plugs are just a hoax---If you talk to Nascar teams they use simple copper core plugs no matter what they advertize on their car---A copper core plug gets rid of heat far better than any other plug--Yes these new metal plugs may last longer but they are not the best choice for removing heat from your plug tip---In my 40 plus years of racing experience the bet plug you can buy is the NGK and on a C5 LS1 it would be a TR55 plug gapped at .040 NOT .060 as GM previously reccomended
The NGK plug with it;s cadium metal is the easiest plug to read if you know how to read plugs "old school" Typically you read timimg by how far up the strap the color change occurs--Ideally with new plugs or NGK plugs you would want the color change to be on the BEND of the strap--If the change is further towards the tip-- you need more timing--If the color change is towards the threads-- you have too much timing-----This is old school timing rules that are relevant even on a LS engine
As far as AFR goes you want the color on the center porcelain to be only about 1/8 to 1/4 of an inch off the bottom center electrode--- If the color is beyond that it is too rich and vice versa
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Irridium plugs are just a way to get more of your money with absolutlley no benefit
All thsese new metal plugs are just a hoax---If you talk to Nascar teams they use simple copper core plugs no matter what they advertize on their car---A copper core plug gets rid of heat far better than any other plug--Yes these new metal plugs may last longer but they are not the best choice for removing heat from your plug tip---In my 40 plus years of racing experience the bet plug you can buy is the NGK and on a C5 LS1 it would be a TR55 plug gapped at .040 NOT .060 as GM previously reccomended
The NGK plug with it;s cadium metal is the easiest plug to read if you know how to read plugs "old school" Typically you read timimg by how far up the strap the color change occurs--Ideally with new plugs or NGK plugs you would want the color change to be on the BEND of the strap--If the change is further towards the tip-- you need more timing--If the color change is towards the threads-- you have too much timing-----This is old school timing rules that are relevant even on a LS engine
As far as AFR goes you want the color on the center porcelain to be only about 1/8 to 1/4 of an inch off the bottom center electrode--- If the color is beyond that it is too rich and vice versa
All thsese new metal plugs are just a hoax---If you talk to Nascar teams they use simple copper core plugs no matter what they advertize on their car---A copper core plug gets rid of heat far better than any other plug--Yes these new metal plugs may last longer but they are not the best choice for removing heat from your plug tip---In my 40 plus years of racing experience the bet plug you can buy is the NGK and on a C5 LS1 it would be a TR55 plug gapped at .040 NOT .060 as GM previously reccomended
The NGK plug with it;s cadium metal is the easiest plug to read if you know how to read plugs "old school" Typically you read timimg by how far up the strap the color change occurs--Ideally with new plugs or NGK plugs you would want the color change to be on the BEND of the strap--If the change is further towards the tip-- you need more timing--If the color change is towards the threads-- you have too much timing-----This is old school timing rules that are relevant even on a LS engine
As far as AFR goes you want the color on the center porcelain to be only about 1/8 to 1/4 of an inch off the bottom center electrode--- If the color is beyond that it is too rich and vice versa
Many C5 owners are just now replacing 14-20 year old plugs..
The Irridiums ARE better than platinum.. Finer wire for better flame kernal, etc...
I see your point, but in many situations it is just not practical.
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St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15
Yes, Copper is what I use on my HI performance race apps... BUT , most people aren't going to change plugs every year or so...
Many C5 owners are just now replacing 14-20 year old plugs..
The Irridiums ARE better than platinum.. Finer wire for better flame kernal, etc...
I see your point, but in many situations it is just not practical.
Many C5 owners are just now replacing 14-20 year old plugs..
The Irridiums ARE better than platinum.. Finer wire for better flame kernal, etc...
I see your point, but in many situations it is just not practical.
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I understand there may be different opinions and yes you may get 10 + years out of a platinum plug however my experience is that IF you have not removed your plugs in 10 years 50% of the time the plugs get carbon welded into the threads and you either break them or strip the threads in your heads when you evensually try and replace them -----Plugs are Now you have a huge costly repair--Plugs are cheap re;palce them every 30L miles with TR-55's and they will always come out without damage
I have a 2013 c6z and just bought tr55's. Should I go with .040 and check them in a few thousand miles?
I looked all over (under) the hood & I also looked in every page of the owners manual. Cannot find anywhere the gm spec. for plug or gap.
WTH?
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On an 03 I would also change the plug wires to at least the GM performance red wires---They get old as well with a 10 year life span and plugs and wires are CHEAP maintenance
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