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Old Nov 5, 2018 | 12:05 PM
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I parked my 2002 vette at the gym on Saturday and when I came out to start it, all the lights came on, but it wouldn't turn over. No clicking, no sound at all. After about 12 times, it fired right up. I drove it home and it wouldn't start again, although I didn't try it 10 more times. I've driven it a couple of times since with no problems starting right up.

I've done my research here and as far as I can tell the most likely culprits are starter/solenoid; ignition switch, or column locking issue. I have no mechanical aptitude (or tools or place to work on a car) at all so looking into this myself isn't an option. I've been using the same auto repair place for about 12 years and trust them, but I don't think they get a lot of vettes in. Is this something that should be easy to diagnose for a competent mechanic?

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Most likely culprit is the starter solenoid, they start acting like that and then get worse, and yes a competent mechanic should be able to diagnose your car's problem.
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Old Nov 5, 2018 | 12:19 PM
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Most likely culprit is the starter solenoid, they start acting like that and then get worse, and yes a competent mechanic should be able to diagnose your car's problem.
Thanks for the quick reply. It's nice to have a place to ask these questions. with 55,000 miles on it, I'm thinking that they probably fixed the steering lock issue, although maybe that's wishful thinking.
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Originally Posted by Wade Wilbur
I parked my 2002 vette at the gym on Saturday and when I came out to start it, all the lights came on, but it wouldn't turn over. No clicking, no sound at all. After about 12 times, it fired right up. I drove it home and it wouldn't start again, although I didn't try it 10 more times. I've driven it a couple of times since with no problems starting right up.

I've done my research here and as far as I can tell the most likely culprits are starter/solenoid; ignition switch, or column locking issue. I have no mechanical aptitude (or tools or place to work on a car) at all so looking into this myself isn't an option. I've been using the same auto repair place for about 12 years and trust them, but I don't think they get a lot of vettes in. Is this something that should be easy to diagnose for a competent mechanic?

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If a mechanic can’t diagnose your no start...well, they should be in another career field !!
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Old Nov 5, 2018 | 12:56 PM
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NO garage is going to be able to FIX the steering column lock issue. HOWEVER,, that being said,, You can solve the column lock issue by purchasing and installing the LMC-5 Column Lock Bypass.

Its NOT a difficult install but, the people that you take it to should be able to read instructions and do competent wiring modifications. The support for the product and any install issues is EXCELLENT!
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Old Nov 5, 2018 | 01:02 PM
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If a mechanic can’t diagnose your no start...well, they should be in another career field !!
True, but if you read all the threads on here about cars not starting, it can sound like a complex issue particular to vettes.

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NO garage is going to be able to FIX the steering column lock issue. HOWEVER,, that being said,, You can solve the column lock issue by purchasing and installing the LMC-5 Column Lock Bypass.

Its NOT a difficult install but, the people that you take it to should be able to read instructions and do competent wiring modifications. The support for the product and any install issues is EXCELLENT!
Thanks. Is there an easy way to see it it's already been done? I checked my car while sitting in it with the key removed and the steering wheel turned freely. I'm not sure if that means that the issue has been resolved.
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Approximately 2 years ago, I had the same experience. Went to the store, came out and put the key in turned to start and nothing! Did it for several times and finally it started. Got home, read the related 'no start' threads and decided to do the easy stuff first. I cleaned the key with alcohol and sprayed the key lock mechanism with electrical cleaner. BTW, I had previously installed the LMC-5 Column Lock Bypass. I have had no further problems for 2 years . I do the spray routine as part of my annual maintenance for the key and lock mechanism.
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Originally Posted by rrwirsi
Approximately 2 years ago, I had the same experience. Went to the store, came out and put the key in turned to start and nothing! Did it for several times and finally it started. Got home, read the related 'no start' threads and decided to do the easy stuff first. I cleaned the key with alcohol and sprayed the key lock mechanism with electrical cleaner. BTW, I had previously installed the LMC-5 Column Lock Bypass. I have had no further problems for 2 years . I do the spray routine as part of my annual maintenance for the key and lock mechanism.
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Which electrical cleaner do you use. I went on Amazon and my head started to spin there are so many.
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I use the cleaner I also use for my computer stuff. ULTRA DUSTER Industrial Strength. I buy it a Harbor Freight. https://www.harborfreight.com/10-oz-...air-67494.html
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Originally Posted by Wade Wilbur
Thanks!

Which electrical cleaner do you use. I went on Amazon and my head started to spin there are so many.
De oxIT !!...we use this stuff at the airlines...if it’s good enough for a Boeing 787 it’s good enough for your C5 !!
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De oxIT !!...we use this stuff at the airlines...if it’s good enough for a Boeing 787 it’s good enough for your C5 !!
Thanks! I see you have that very rare color corvette too!

When I bought the car, my salesman kept telling me how rare this color is.
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Thanks! I see you have that very rare color corvette too!

When I bought the car, my salesman kept telling me how rare this color is.
yes !!....Navy Blue Metallic !!
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In my first reply to your thread I suggested maybe the starter solenoid was the likely culprit, but it could be other things beside the starter solenoid. If your car is an automatic try shifting to neutral and try starting it, if your car is a M6 exercise the clutch several times when it fails to crank. Next thing to check when it fails to crank is your Security light, it should come on when you turn the car to the on switch position and then turn off before you turn the key to the start position. The ignition switch has contacts that read the key pellet for the Vehicle Anti Theft System and spraying cleaner will correct that problem, but there is the ignition switch contact block that has contacts that become pitted and spraying contact cleaner will not correct that, the contact block has to be removed and contacts cleaned with a fine grade of sandpaper or replaced with a new contact block. I helped a co worker and it was his ignition switch contact block, his car acted like you described your car is acting. And finally I don't believe that a column lock problem will prevent your car from cranking over , column lock problems usually present different symptom's.
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