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Old Jun 23, 2019 | 06:55 PM
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Guys I’ve posted about this a couple times but wanted to share one more video I made today after driving a bit because it’s driving me crazy...I’m not so sure this excessive noise I’m hearing isn’t an exhaust leak. If that’s all it is that would be a relief but I just can’t tell. Videos are tough to diagnose a noise but has anyone had a header leak that sounded like this.? These are JBA long tubes, not top of the line but not Chinese eBay headers either. I’ve tried two sets of header gaskets with really no change. All the rockers are tight and no sign of trouble any problems looking Under the valve cover.
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Maybe a leak through the spark plugs? You check they're tight?
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Maybe a leak through the spark plugs? You check they're tight?
Yes, several times. I just cannot pinpoint this noise and don’t know if it’s valvetrain related, exhaust related or bottom end. I’m to the point where I wish whatever it is would get worse just so I could figure it out. I pulled the valve cover again today after driving and cannot find anything at all wrong.
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I cant hear anything odd in the video but I am a little familiar with the JBA system. Maybe it is leaking at the Catalytic/midpipe clamp? I'm a firm believer of high temp copper RTV and don't care if its messy, it works. Sometimes OEM tolerances can be tighter than after market things.
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I cant hear anything odd in the video but I am a little familiar with the JBA system. Maybe it is leaking at the Catalytic/midpipe clamp? I'm a firm believer of high temp copper RTV and don't care if its messy, it works. Sometimes OEM tolerances can be tighter than after market things.
Funny you say that because I just finished putting half a tube of copper rtv on my x-pipe to over the axle pipe connection, it was leaking pretty bad and the copper rtv took care of that...Good stuff! But no I have checked for leaks at all connections and it’s not leaking anywhere, the only place it could be leaking is at the heads and if so I believe it would be on the bottom side of the manifold. I’ve been considering getting Texas Speed long tubes with their x-pipe also.. If I spend all that money and it sounds exactly the same I’m going to be pissed tho
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Here is another clip I made of the interior sound while driving. Don’t mind the rattle at the 10 and 20 secs marks that just a 10mm socket vibrating.
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Yeah I don't like how messy it is, but it works! When I removed and reinstalled my exhaust a few months ago, the factory donut gaskets at the cats would not seal with out the RTV.

Okay in that video, the low rumble sounds really good. Am I hearing a high pitched "pffft pfffffft psssst pfffft pssst" that is kind of rhythmic? If I'm not crazy that sounds like a header leak.

Im sure you have torqued the bolts before and after the heat cycles of the motor. You might wanna try some more of that RTV on the header gaskets

Arent the JBAs welded to the stock cats? If the very rigid V angle of where they sit on both sides of the heads isn't 100% flat, you might have those leaks

Edit: You could also maybe losen the Cat/midpipe clamps, tighten header bolts, and then retighten the cat/midpipe
clamps. That might align one portion of the V angle correctly, but only rotational-wise not up and down.

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Yeah I don't like how messy it is, but it works! When I removed and reinstalled my exhaust a few months ago, the factory donut gaskets at the cats would not seal with out the RTV.

Okay in that video, the low rumble sounds really good. Am I hearing a high pitched "pffft pfffffft psssst pfffft pssst" that is kind of rhythmic? If I'm not crazy that sounds like a header leak.

Im sure you have torqued the bolts before and after the heat cycles of the motor. You might wanna try some more of that RTV on the header gaskets

Arent the JBAs welded to the stock cats? If the very rigid V angle of where they sit on both sides of the heads isn't 100% flat, you might have those leaks

Edit: You could also maybe losen the Cat/midpipe clamps, tighten header bolts, and then retighten the cat/midpipe
clamps. That might align one portion of the V angle correctly, but only rotational-wise not up and down.
Yeah same here on the donut gaskets. Yes that rhythmic sound is what I’m talking about. I think around the 17secs mark it can be heard pretty good. I’ve checked torque on the header bolts several times and none are loose. I’m not sure what you mean by the V angle? These headers came with v-band clamps and an extension pipe which I have welded high flow cats onto then they go into the x-pipe. These are long tubes btw.
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By V I just basically mean the V of the engine block and heads, and how the header flanges sit on the block can be yawed and/or tilted lightly. It's possible the way they attach to the cats flare them out one way or another so much that tightening the bolts doesn't get it sealed. All my recommendations above still stand!

On another note, how does the car feel power-wise with the headers versus stock (if you drove it stock)? Has it been tuned for all the mods?
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Originally Posted by 02torchred
By V I just basically mean the V of the engine block and heads, and how the header flanges sit on the block can be yawed and/or tilted lightly. It's possible the way they attach to the cats flare them out one way or another so much that tightening the bolts doesn't get it sealed. All my recommendations above still stand!

On another note, how does the car feel power-wise with the headers versus stock (if you drove it stock)? Has it been tuned for all the mods?
Okay I see what you’re saying now.

It runs great I have no complaints about that. It pulls hard and has never had any kind of miss or stumble. When I bought the car it had shorty headers instead of stock manifolds, The rest of the exhaust was bone stock... cats, H pipe and ti mufflers. It pulls much harder with the long tubes, x-pipe and high flow cats vs stock. Everything has been dyno tuned.
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