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Old Dec 30, 2019 | 05:53 PM
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So I bought a heavily built N/A car . Everything has been done to it . Nothing spared . My only dilemma is ,I want more power. The car is built for boost but I won’t be ready for boost for quite sometime. The wallet don’t agree right now . Would it be better to raise my compression with new pistons and nitrous it ? or do a budget but semi quality rear mount turbo ? The engine is already out of the car for some other maintenance ,so I either put higher compression pistons in it w/ N20 or just bite the bullet and boost it . Block is sleeved and I run LS7 heads. It makes a tad under 600whp with about a 10:1 CR ( give or take )
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So I bought a heavily built N/A car . Everything has been done to it . Nothing spared . My only dilemma is ,I want more power. The car is built for boost but I won’t be ready for boost for quite sometime. The wallet don’t agree right now . Would it be better to raise my compression with new pistons and nitrous it ? or do a budget but semi quality rear mount turbo ? The engine is already out of the car for some other maintenance ,so I either put higher compression pistons in it w/ N20 or just bite the bullet and boost it . Block is sleeved and I run LS7 heads. It makes a tad under 600whp with about a 10:1 CR ( give or take )
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time to contact a builder. Lmr, cordes, etc
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Having owned 2 FI cars, there are a blast to drive. They are also easier on the drivetrain, depending on how you stage your nitrous.

​​​​​The bottle is there cheaper and easier option for sure, but damn turbo and supercharged cars are fun.
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Bolt on an ECS kit and go have fun.
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10:1 doesn't sound built for boost to me... Do you know what ring gaps were set at?
And you're thinking about higher compression?
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Lots of boosted cars running around at 10.0:1 or even somewhat higher. It’s all in the tune. And good fuel, of course. E85 makes it better.
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I ran 7 lbs of boost with 10:1 on a modular motor and was on the edge of detonation with a tune by one of the best in the ford game. If you can get down to 8.5:1 or 9:1 max, you can push the limits a bit more honestly. And if your down that far in the motor o-ring the block and all of the sudden 12, 15, or more pounds gets real comfortable.

and hell yes to the E85 suggestion.

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We have a car running 10.5:1 on E85 making 26+lbs on a 377" LSA block.

Can't compare the Mod motor and an LS. I'd never suggest going below 10:1 on an LS boosted combo.
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Originally Posted by Capthuff
We have a car running 10.5:1 on E85 making 26+lbs on a 377" LSA block.

Can't compare the Mod motor and an LS. I'd never suggest going below 10:1 on an LS boosted combo.
I think comparing a FCR of around 29:1 in your race motor to the OP's street motor is kinda apples to oranges. The science is solid and well researched on FI, so let's not pretend a an LS motor is unique or special in that regard. On an LS the relationship between static CR and final CR doesn't change, nor do the properties leading to detonation and subsequent destruction of a motor.

OP, here is a bunch of reading on Forced Induction to help steer you in the right direction.

https://www.rpmoutlet.com/boost-comp...atio-chart.htm

https://www.procharger.com/basic-engine-building-specs

https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...-question.html

https://www.streetmusclemag.com/tech...rtech-your-ls/

https://www.superchargerforums.com/t...mum-boost.628/

And lastly, SA Designs has a great book selection and this may be a great read.

https://www.cartechbooks.com/how-to-...s-engines.html
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Well, It's not a race engine... It's a street car that sees somewhere around 5000 miles a year, as well as several hundred passes.

But, you're right in that the LS is nothing special... It's just an air pump, like any other internal combustion engine. It just does it better then any other manufacturer...

Still, even on pump gas, I wouldn't put together a power adder LS engine at anything less than 10:1 Good gas, good tuning, and meth - if needed.

Some good reading you've posted...

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