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Old Feb 12, 2020 | 06:04 PM
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I have a low mileage base 2004 C5 and am interested in adding headers to improve function and perhaps help it sound less tame. A previous owner added a cat-back Corsa Touring exhaust and perhaps their X-pipe (I haven't been able to verify). I spoke with a knowledgeable mechanic (referred to me by a coworker who owns several Corvettes) and he discouraged me from considering headers. He said unless I had a cam and upgraded heads, I'd see no improvement in performance or sound.

To be fair, he didn't know me except for me mentioning my coworker. He also said he wasn't interested in adding new customers (trying to retire I think) so he may have just been trying to politely decline my request for the installation. However I thought someone here might have an alternate opinion on if adding decent headers to a car like mine is a worthwhile and rewarding investment.

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Old Feb 12, 2020 | 06:16 PM
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It is if you want to add headers, there is some modest improvement in performance. The one thing I will caution you on headers is you will have to protect the starter and solenoid by adding a heat shield blanket over them.
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Old Feb 12, 2020 | 08:34 PM
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Headers will add noise. But nominal hp. Unless you’re going to do headers, cam, heads etc, I would just upgrade your cat back.

corsa touring is discontinued and super quiet. Maybe even quieter than stock. If you are just looking for noise upgrade to corsa extreme.

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If you dont have to worry about emissions, quality headers and X Pipe will add 10-15 RWHP & 8-12 LB'
from ~2500-6000 RPM and at least 50% more with a good tune. I used ARH 1 7/8" W/Catted X on my 99,
with Mamo Ported FAST 92 & LS2 TB made 370/370 with just those mods, Tune, and a Vara Ram Intake,
Sounded good with Borla Stingers. You will notice sound and performance with headers.
Not dramatic but definitely noticeable.

For a budget header I would look at TPS Motorsports a Vendor.
Good Luck

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Old Feb 13, 2020 | 01:05 AM
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Thanks for the feedback. I do have to worry about emissions though but appreciate your insights.
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Originally Posted by nunover
I have a low mileage base 2004 C5 and am interested in adding headers to improve function and perhaps help it sound less tame. A previous owner added a cat-back Corsa Touring exhaust and perhaps their X-pipe (I haven't been able to verify). I spoke with a knowledgeable mechanic (referred to me by a coworker who owns several Corvettes) and he discouraged me from considering headers. He said unless I had a cam and upgraded heads, I'd see no improvement in performance or sound.

To be fair, he didn't know me except for me mentioning my coworker. He also said he wasn't interested in adding new customers (trying to retire I think) so he may have just been trying to politely decline my request for the installation. However I thought someone here might have an alternate opinion on if adding decent headers to a car like mine is a worthwhile and rewarding investment.

Thanks,
Paul
Our cars are not worth much more than 10k. A complete header install with cats and x pipe can get quite expensive and create a lot of heat vs stock cast manifolds that flow quite well. Stock exhaust manifolds still suffer from how horrible they were in the 70's. C5 stock manifolds flow quite well. IMO - If all you want is a little more rumble, swap the cat back.
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Old Feb 13, 2020 | 02:01 AM
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Well the 2001+ cast iron manifolds were also slightly better flowing than the older double wall steel ones. So I agree that the 10-15rwhp from headers isn't really worth it. I'd choose heads/cam first, and maybe view headers as the last part in a max-effort situation, but probably wouldn't do them myself personally. (I do all my work myself, but a set of 243 heads would excite me more than headers if I had to choose. There's a bump in compression, flow better., with out adding extra heat to the engine bay and cooking things.)

Anyways, my advice is to consider trading mufflers for something louder if you want, consider a more open air intake (I did the 02 Z06 airbox and fog vents), cutting or hollowing the pre-cats out, X-pipe, and a tune. That'd grab you probably 15rwhp for a lot less money and possible headaches with emissions, etc.

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Thanks for the info on the stock manifolds. This is my first Corvette so I'm still low on my learning curve and appreciate the insight.
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A previous owner installed an SLP Blackwing airbus so at least that part of the equation was addressed. I'll look into swapping out the mufflers for maybe the Sport? Thanks for the feedback.
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Originally Posted by 02torchred
Well the 2001+ cast iron manifolds were also slightly better flowing than the older double wall steel ones. So I agree that the 10-15rwhp from headers isn't really worth it. I'd choose heads/cam first, and maybe view headers as the last part in a max-effort situation, but probably wouldn't do them myself personally. (I do all my work myself, but a set of 243 heads would excite me more than headers if I had to choose. There's a bump in compression, flow better., with out adding extra heat to the engine bay and cooking things.)

Anyways, my advice is to consider trading mufflers for something louder if you want, consider a more open air intake (I did the 02 Z06 airbox and fog vents), cutting or hollowing the pre-cats out, X-pipe, and a tune. That'd grab you probably 15rwhp for a lot less money and possible headaches with emissions, etc.
Agree about the 243 heads except you should ask yourself first- Am I considering supercharging this thing at anytime in the future. If so, skip the heads. The extra compression is not helpful if you supercharge. Otherwise a good mod for sure!
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When I had my 99, I was repeatedly told by "everyone" here that the shorty headers I wanted to do would "make no difference", but living in Kalifornia shorties were all I could do. I ended up with a set of B&B shorties, Flowmasters, LS6 intake, and an underdrive pulley and made 340 at the wheels without a tune.

And it also got 58 mpg at 65 instead of 33.6 it got stock.


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