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Old Jul 2, 2020 | 08:16 AM
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I may try to help a friend change their 2004 C5 (manual trans) radiator.

I replaced the hoses on my ‘99 and OMG the lower main hose is awkward to say the least. I actually did it from the side with the front bumper off but when I look down from the engine bay, this hose and clip look buried.

I see people sliding the radiator out, leaving fans and AC condenser in place but is this hose clip vaguely accessible? Maybe from below..?

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Old Jul 2, 2020 | 09:51 AM
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I just replaced all hoses on my '02 C5 Z06. I accessed the lower radiator hose from beneath the car while it was raised on ramps - wasn't too bad, just a bit fiddly and tedious.

The protective sheath (ribbed plastic) can be removed from the lowest part of the hose where it attaches to the radiator (the sheath just wraps around it) to improve work conditions. The sheath should be replaced onto the new hose.
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Old Jul 2, 2020 | 11:16 AM
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Thanks. That’s good if not too hard to get at from below. I bought a tool for the clips this week. I did without when I changed all my hoses but it’s not easy with grips etc. The clip is thing that worries me regarding access.
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I used channel lock pliers to remove all of the OEM clamps. They might need to fiddled with and rotated so the tabs are positioned for compression so the clamp can be slipped back.
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Old Jul 2, 2020 | 07:13 PM
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To get those clamp loose I use Cable Operated Hose Clamp Pliers which saves time and the knuckles!!! Many brands and price points for this tool available on the market.
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I cut the lower hose off at the radiator outlet first, then had enough room to access the clamp. ALL clamps were replaced with SS worm drive clamps, positioned for easy access next time.

Getting the new lower hose fully onto the lower radiator outlet can also be a challenge. Before installing it, be sure to lubricate the new hose and radiator outlet with undiluted coolant.
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Old Jul 3, 2020 | 06:34 AM
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It crossed my mind cutting the hose just might prove helpful. Alternatively maybe breaking the outlet off the radiator that's getting replaced anyway.

Unfortunately I threw away my old hoses a few weeks ago. Totally agree, even getting the hose on to the lower rad wasn't easy. Also agree on replacing this hose clamp with another type that can be unscrewed.

The tool I mentioned buying is the above. Hopefully the clamp is positioned so as the tool can grip it.

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Old Jul 3, 2020 | 09:30 AM
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With the cable spring clamp tool you will get the clamp off. You don't need to break or cut anything. If you cut the hose you will be working in a mess. Replacing it with good worm clamps will be the way to go.
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Came here looking for something else, and noticed the comments about replacing the spring clamps with worm gear clamps. I'm replacing the rad in my '02, and was going to do the same, but after doing some research, I won't be. I'm not a materials scientist by any stretch, but the consensus from multiple sources is that is that we should reuse the spring clamps because they maintain a constant tension on the hose when hot or cold. Worm drive clamps do not. With a worm drive, when the engine cools off, the radiator metal contracts slightly, leading to a possible leak between outlet and hose. So then you tighten it up, the leak stops, but now you're digging into the hose more than needed and possible long term compromised hoses. Made sense to me.

You can buy a set of 4 spring clamps for the 2 main hoses for about $17 should any of the old ones fail.
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Originally Posted by pewtercoupe2002
Came here looking for something else, and noticed the comments about replacing the spring clamps with worm gear clamps. I'm replacing the rad in my '02, and was going to do the same, but after doing some research, I won't be. I'm not a materials scientist by any stretch, but the consensus from multiple sources is that is that we should reuse the spring clamps because they maintain a constant tension on the hose when hot or cold. Worm drive clamps do not. With a worm drive, when the engine cools off, the radiator metal contracts slightly, leading to a possible leak between outlet and hose. So then you tighten it up, the leak stops, but now you're digging into the hose more than needed and possible long term compromised hoses. Made sense to me.

You can buy a set of 4 spring clamps for the 2 main hoses for about $17 should any of the old ones fail.

I agree, however, there's a "high tech" solution, offered by Gates. They make what is called the Gates "Power Grip" clamp. It's like a large diameter piece of shrink tubing. It's advantage is that it provides 360* of clamping power and also expands/contracts at the same rate as the hoses, so once it's installed, there's no leakage and the connection is basically forever. And there's no chance of snagging your fingers on them, while working on other things, under the hood.

I installed silicone hoses on my C-5, a number of years ago, and used these Gates clamps. No leakage, so far. There is, however, a "down side" to them, and that is that they're a "one time" usage part. If you need to remove the hose, you have to cut them off.....
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[QUOTEspring clamps because they maintain a constant tension on the hose][/QUOTE]

Thats what I read and when I replaced every hose on my car, I re used the constant tension spring claps, not one drop of leak from any connections.
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