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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 02:06 PM
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Hi all - I had my car in to the dealer this week for an oil change and the tech said he though he detected rod knock. Can anyone tell from this short video if that might be the case? There's a loud and clear knock underneath the engine at idle, but it doesn't seem to worsen when I rev it to 3,000 rpm at the end.

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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 04:19 PM
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Hi all - I had my car in to the dealer this week for an oil change and the tech said he though he detected rod knock. Can anyone tell from this short video if that might be the case? There's a loud and clear knock underneath the engine at idle, but it doesn't seem to worsen when I rev it to 3,000 rpm at the end.

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Tried opening link, but couldn't. How many miles on engine? Oil pressure OK-Especially at idle? Is it louder cold, when first started, or is it louder when hot?
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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 05:02 PM
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Tried opening link, but couldn't. How many miles on engine? Oil pressure OK-Especially at idle? Is it louder cold, when first started, or is it louder when hot?
Oil is around 40 PSI at idle, 75,000 miles on the engine, louder when cold. Doesn't seem to increase with RPMs.

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from what i can hear there is definitely something wrong. I would check valve trian to start with. Take off valve covers off and start from there. Me personally would not drive the car like that. Might be something simple.
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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by helga203
from what i can hear there is definitely something wrong. I would check valve trian to start with. Take off valve covers off and start from there. Me personally would not drive the car like that. Might be something simple.
Funny thing is it's barely audible on the top of the engine. The valve train is up top, right?

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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by danmclaren
Funny thing is it's barely audible on the top of the engine. The valve train is up top, right?

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Can be a lifter thats down in the middle of engine thats part of the valve train
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A rod knock is typically a "double knock" and more noticeable on free rev vs. under load. The noise I hear on the file you included is 1/2 engine speed, which means it is valve train related, not crankshaft related. Check the easy stuff first - rocker arms and pushrods. If no luck there, then you are probably pulling the heads to check the lifters and cam. Good luck. Please let us know what you find.
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So after a fun 45 minute drive, the sound appears to gone...weird.

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Originally Posted by 4XLR8N
A rod knock is typically a "double knock" and more noticeable on free rev vs. under load. The noise I hear on the file you included is 1/2 engine speed, which means it is valve train related, not crankshaft related. Check the easy stuff first - rocker arms and pushrods. If no luck there, then you are probably pulling the heads to check the lifters and cam. Good luck. Please let us know what you find.
Thank you - I will check those things out next weekend! Thanks to everyone who replied!

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If the noise is gone, I would not tear into the engine. It is possible you had a "stuck" lifter that has pumped back up. The closest tolerances in any vehicle are automatic trans valve bodies and lifters. The tiniest contaminant can cause an issue. It may have just flushed out the contaminants during your drive.
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