What he said.... MGW shifter made a world of difference in the feel of the trans....Anti-venom made it less effort.
Anti Venom Mod= No Difference!
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Racer
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From: Boring Green, Kentucky
Anti Venom Mod= No Difference!
Did the mod yesterday. After the install, I took out the C5 and did not notice any improvement. The shifting is still notchy as hell. I'm still hunting gears and 2nd gear always bites me. It has a very small sweetspot. I want to race this car, but 'not feeling comfortable or confident enough to do so.
I used the 2 washers. Go to 3?
I used the 2 washers. Go to 3?
Melting Slicks
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2 washers is kind of the max.
Just to clarify, the anti-venom mod only affects the effort to move the shifter forward/backward. It will make zero difference on side-to side shifter movement. Maybe try one washer? (or did you already?)
Anti-venom won't help you with "hunting gears" in my experience, if anything it will hurt it.
What shifter?
Just to clarify, the anti-venom mod only affects the effort to move the shifter forward/backward. It will make zero difference on side-to side shifter movement. Maybe try one washer? (or did you already?)
Anti-venom won't help you with "hunting gears" in my experience, if anything it will hurt it.
What shifter?
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Racer
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From: Boring Green, Kentucky
2 washers is kind of the max.
Just to clarify, the anti-venom mod only affects the effort to move the shifter forward/backward. It will make zero difference on side-to side shifter movement. Maybe try one washer? (or did you already?)
Anti-venom won't help you with "hunting gears" in my experience, if anything it will hurt it.
What shifter?
Just to clarify, the anti-venom mod only affects the effort to move the shifter forward/backward. It will make zero difference on side-to side shifter movement. Maybe try one washer? (or did you already?)
Anti-venom won't help you with "hunting gears" in my experience, if anything it will hurt it.
What shifter?
Thanks!
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Racer
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From: Boring Green, Kentucky
2 washers is kind of the max.
Just to clarify, the anti-venom mod only affects the effort to move the shifter forward/backward. It will make zero difference on side-to side shifter movement. Maybe try one washer? (or did you already?)
Anti-venom won't help you with "hunting gears" in my experience, if anything it will hurt it.
What shifter?
Just to clarify, the anti-venom mod only affects the effort to move the shifter forward/backward. It will make zero difference on side-to side shifter movement. Maybe try one washer? (or did you already?)
Anti-venom won't help you with "hunting gears" in my experience, if anything it will hurt it.
What shifter?
Melting Slicks
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Kinda sounds like your shifting is off kilter. Have you already tried aligning the lower shifter box? If that checks out, it almost sounds like an issue with the 2nd gear synchro.
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Racer
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From: Boring Green, Kentucky
2nd gear syncho issue sounds expensive to repair.
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Melting Slicks
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The whole center console has to come off to access & align the shifter.
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Racer
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From: Boring Green, Kentucky
QUOTE=MetalMan2;1605313960]There are some good videos on Youtube for aligning a stock shifter, like this:
The 1st comment in that video mentions their 2nd gear being difficult, but after aligning it was all better.
The whole center console has to come off to access & align the shifter.[/QUOTE]
Thanks! But I got a B&M speedshifter. I'll watch the vid anyway.
I just took the C5 out for a spin. I managed to shift 1-2 and 3-2 cleanly, although 2nd gear bit me once out of 7-8 shifts. I learned that I need be more precise and use more muscle regarding 2nd gear. I am still used to shifting all previous Camaros, and like one member said, it's like comparing apple to oranges. There feels like I need to clear 2 dentents before being solid in 2nd. I can feel it in the shifter.
Thank you!
The whole center console has to come off to access & align the shifter.[/QUOTE]
Thanks! But I got a B&M speedshifter. I'll watch the vid anyway.
I just took the C5 out for a spin. I managed to shift 1-2 and 3-2 cleanly, although 2nd gear bit me once out of 7-8 shifts. I learned that I need be more precise and use more muscle regarding 2nd gear. I am still used to shifting all previous Camaros, and like one member said, it's like comparing apple to oranges. There feels like I need to clear 2 dentents before being solid in 2nd. I can feel it in the shifter.
Thank you!
Melting Slicks
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Thanks! But I got a B&M speedshifter. I'll watch the vid anyway.
I just took the C5 out for a spin. I managed to shift 1-2 and 3-2 cleanly, although 2nd gear bit me once out of 7-8 shifts. I learned that I need be more precise and use more muscle regarding 2nd gear. I am still used to shifting all previous Camaros, and like one member said, it's like comparing apple to oranges. There feels like I need to clear 2 dentents before being solid in 2nd. I can feel it in the shifter.
Thank you!
I just took the C5 out for a spin. I managed to shift 1-2 and 3-2 cleanly, although 2nd gear bit me once out of 7-8 shifts. I learned that I need be more precise and use more muscle regarding 2nd gear. I am still used to shifting all previous Camaros, and like one member said, it's like comparing apple to oranges. There feels like I need to clear 2 dentents before being solid in 2nd. I can feel it in the shifter.
Thank you!
So just last night I aligned my lower shifter box since it was removed from the car. Like you I don't have the capability to use the pin. What I do is loosen up the linkage bolt a tad, do my best to center the shifter's shaft vertically (for both fore/aft and left/right), and tighten the linkage bolt to 22 ft-lbs while trying to keep the shifter's shaft vertical. Worked perfectly for me... granted the synchros and fluid in my trans only have 5k miles on them.
Drifting
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Did the mod yesterday. After the install, I took out the C5 and did not notice any improvement. The shifting is still notchy as hell. I'm still hunting gears and 2nd gear always bites me. It has a very small sweetspot. I want to race this car, but 'not feeling comfortable or confident enough to do so.
I used the 2 washers. Go to 3?
I used the 2 washers. Go to 3?
Also my aftermarket short shifter sucked when I first got the car. While installing a radio I removed the shifter and found that the box had no grease on the shaft. Greased it up and it was almost normal. Then I did the anti venom mod and it really became easy to shift. Still a little notchy, but if I shift at over 2k rpm it shifts pretty nice.
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Racer
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From: Boring Green, Kentucky
Wasn't sure if the B&M has the provision for factory shifter alignment pin, now I know
So just last night I aligned my lower shifter box since it was removed from the car. Like you I don't have the capability to use the pin. What I do is loosen up the linkage bolt a tad, do my best to center the shifter's shaft vertically (for both fore/aft and left/right), and tighten the linkage bolt to 22 ft-lbs while trying to keep the shifter's shaft vertical. Worked perfectly for me... granted the synchros and fluid in my trans only have 5k miles on them.
So just last night I aligned my lower shifter box since it was removed from the car. Like you I don't have the capability to use the pin. What I do is loosen up the linkage bolt a tad, do my best to center the shifter's shaft vertically (for both fore/aft and left/right), and tighten the linkage bolt to 22 ft-lbs while trying to keep the shifter's shaft vertical. Worked perfectly for me... granted the synchros and fluid in my trans only have 5k miles on them.
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Sounds like the problem is the crappy shifter. Pick up a used C6 shifter, then have TMOD rework the lower box and it will be smooth and easy.
When I bought my car I didn’t know it had a Hurst shifter. Super notchy and while it did have a short throw it was really hard to get into reverse and fifth. My wife didn’t even want to drive it.
At least toss the B&M and put in a stocker…
When I bought my car I didn’t know it had a Hurst shifter. Super notchy and while it did have a short throw it was really hard to get into reverse and fifth. My wife didn’t even want to drive it.
At least toss the B&M and put in a stocker…
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Your box is almost certainly shot. Send it to me and I'll fix it up, it will be a night and day difference. Then you can play with adding spacers to the detent, you probably won't even want to. After I do the box you also want to replace the factory shifter bushing with mine, it will be, like I said, night and day.
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Sounds like the problem is the crappy shifter. Pick up a used C6 shifter, then have TMOD rework the lower box and it will be smooth and easy.
When I bought my car I didn’t know it had a Hurst shifter. Super notchy and while it did have a short throw it was really hard to get into reverse and fifth. My wife didn’t even want to drive it.
At least toss the B&M and put in a stocker…
When I bought my car I didn’t know it had a Hurst shifter. Super notchy and while it did have a short throw it was really hard to get into reverse and fifth. My wife didn’t even want to drive it.
At least toss the B&M and put in a stocker…
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the only gear I find difficult is 2nd. It's not terrible but definitely need to throw it down intentionally all the way back. I'm going to try re-aligning at some point and of course change fluids. Otherwise I find the stock setup to shift pretty nicely, although a bit long in the tooth.
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Racer
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From: Boring Green, Kentucky
the only gear I find difficult is 2nd. It's not terrible but definitely need to throw it down intentionally all the way back. I'm going to try re-aligning at some point and of course change fluids. Otherwise I find the stock setup to shift pretty nicely, although a bit long in the tooth.
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If you rev-match with a little throttle blip beforehand, it tends to help, but sometimes I'm too lazy for that. Overall I'd say it's not too bad, I'm still learning the car. But definitely will be doing fluids later this summer or fall.
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Racer
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From: Boring Green, Kentucky
It's too hot and muggy now. Lose too much horsepower. The DA sucks. I am ready for Fall.