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Old Feb 25, 2023 | 08:26 PM
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Just picked up a pair of used headers, cats, xpipe here on the forum (FS (For Sale) SOLD. 1997-2000 Dynatech Stainless Catted Long Tube Headers - CorvetteForum - Chevrolet Corvette Forum Discussion)

Before I get them installed, is there any prep/cleaning/maintenance I should do? Or just install as-is?

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Might ask the Harley guys. They seem to polish theirs to a high sheen.

That said, 0000 steel wool and metal polish works magic. Same wool with oil works great on old rifles - but definitely not for headers. So a vigorous rub down with the wool and see if there are recommended chems. A quick search for restore and polish yielded a 3M (marine metal restorer and polish) product intended for boat trim. I tend to trust their products to be both safe and effective. After the wool gets the majority of physically felt junk out and you're using terry cloths or microfiber to clean it then if you really want to go deep and have a good polishing wheel you can take a lot more time and get it down to a mirror finish. Did I mention this is going to be extremely time intensive? Don't go with a small polisher head, lol!

Let us know what you find and how they turn out. Good score on the set.
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Might ask the Harley guys. They seem to polish theirs to a high sheen.

That said, 0000 steel wool and metal polish works magic. Same wool with oil works great on old rifles - but definitely not for headers. So a vigorous rub down with the wool and see if there are recommended chems. A quick search for restore and polish yielded a 3M (marine metal restorer and polish) product intended for boat trim. I tend to trust their products to be both safe and effective. After the wool gets the majority of physically felt junk out and you're using terry cloths or microfiber to clean it then if you really want to go deep and have a good polishing wheel you can take a lot more time and get it down to a mirror finish. Did I mention this is going to be extremely time intensive? Don't go with a small polisher head, lol!

Let us know what you find and how they turn out. Good score on the set.
Thanks, honestly these are in good shape, I will get more pictures today. I am thinking the fine wool and some polish will do the trick. I also have a local coating shop near me to get a price on ceramic, see what that might be.
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I had priced it with the larger shops last fall and felt it was rather expensive. Your local option may offer better pricing. Great idea for keeping them looking clean.
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One product that used to work for me on my motorcycles was oven cleaner. Never tried it on stainless, though. If you do use it, try it in an inconspicuous spot first. Also wear nitrile gloves and try to avoid breathing the fumes....
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I wanted those headers, but somehow I missed Monzas post early on. Nice snag. I called the manufacturer and they stopped making them 1.5 years ago... MFG Afraid of EPA swat teams that have been visiting performance shops. Really too bad they look like outstanding headers
Plastic Media Blast (PMB) to clean. PMB, We have two where I work. Cleans metal of paint, carbon, what ever without hurting the base material. Soda blast would work also.
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75mL Metal Automotive Polish : Amazon.ca: Automotive 75mL Metal Automotive Polish : Amazon.ca: Automotive

I've had excellent success with this product and a light scotch bright pad on headers and down pipes. They won't be like chrome but they'll look MUCH better. Good luck!
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Just to follow up, got a few quotes to coat my headers. There is a reputable shop down the street from my office that quoted $450.00 sandblasting & jet hot ( outside only) for 4 pcs.

The other prices I received are $800+. Any experiences with jet hot coat on the exterior?
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Originally Posted by Vader_C5
Just to follow up, got a few quotes to coat my headers. There is a reputable shop down the street from my office that quoted $450.00 sandblasting & jet hot ( outside only) for 4 pcs.

The other prices I received are $800+. Any experiences with jet hot coat on the exterior?
No personal experience with jet hot, but iirc, they were one of the first companies to offer the service
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Originally Posted by Vader_C5
Any experiences with jet hot coat on the exterior?
I've never heard of anyone only doing the exterior before. I've had stainless motorcycle headers done both inner and outer, and it made a huge difference in fully faired temperatures.
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I've never heard of anyone only doing the exterior before. I've had stainless motorcycle headers done both inner and outer, and it made a huge difference in fully faired temperatures.
Can you coat the inside of used headers? I know that's what I'd prefer, especially since I saw an episode of Engine Masters that tested thermal coatings. They did only the outside. I was disappointed with their results. Only a 10°-15° temp reduction. My old style Kooks on my 2000 C5 are, let's just say a PITA to R&R. So I decided against it. If the inside can be done on used LTs, I'd be willing to do it for a 25° reduction....
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There are other companies which do the same service. I had quoted JetHot for some primaries in the Fall and they were very expensive. I could buy another full Speed Engineering pipe set for their price and have some left over.

I know ceramic helps to some degree (intentional pun, that), but I also doubt that it will significantly reduce bay heat radiated from the massed surface area of stainless steel from primaries on a set of longtubes. They can be cleanly wrapped inexpensively to truly contain some of the heat. Surrounding parts or panels can likewise be easily shielded. This is if heat is the primary concern.

If appearance is a key component, then polishing them could be one way to go. Cerakote another. JetHott or competitor ceramics have various finishes too. But if appearance is a concern remember too that only the top two inches of the bend coming out of the head is visible. The rest of these things are never to be seen.

For my money, it's too bad there isn't an effective and inexpensive hydrophobic coating which could be applied to the steel prior to wrapping it. That would be asking too much.
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Originally Posted by Vader_C5
Just to follow up, got a few quotes to coat my headers. There is a reputable shop down the street from my office that quoted $450.00 sandblasting & jet hot ( outside only) for 4 pcs.

The other prices I received are $800+. Any experiences with jet hot coat on the exterior?
Followed up with the shop about coating the inside, and they said they only coat the exterior. Even though the interior really helps with temps, from what I am reading, the exterior coat will help as well.
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Don’t need to clean them but def have to wrap them
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