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Old May 27, 2023 | 08:33 PM
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my battery is good, and I also did a battery load check which is good to. the battery is one year old and when not used it is disconnected and a battery tender is on it,
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yes it is running Fat when the MAF is connected, I agree everything leads to the MAF
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If you go WOT while watching your upstream O2’s they should go rich like 900 mv’s…if it goes low that signifies a bad or dirty MAF…another thing is to look at the MAP sensor with just the key ON…you should see about 14.7 psi at sea level with the scan tool.

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Old May 27, 2023 | 10:13 PM
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I want to thank you sop much for your help!!!

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Old May 28, 2023 | 06:23 AM
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Fred, I can remember years back one of the members had an Innova scan tool and he too had pages and pages of trouble codes so I don’t know if I would really trust that thing even the MAF and O2 readings you gave me…I’m not familiar with that product but how about using the cars “built in” code reader and see what you have stored there…I don’t know how old your scan tool is but I’d trade it in for something like an Autel or Launch scan tool…you HAVE to trust your equipment !!…maybe you can take a snap shot of those MAF and O2 readings ??
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Old May 28, 2023 | 11:45 AM
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I did rescan and noticed that upon further review 98% of the 40 codes were Pending. I did take out the MAF and it was clean. I check the throttle body it was good too. I just took it out and for a drive without the MAF and it drove fabulous. only one code and that was a MAF code. I will order one any suggestion? I should confess this is a LS6 with a Vortech Supercharger with a water intercooler and Meth injection.

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You’d want to buy an OEM and new vs a reman…like I mentioned I’d look into how to view DTC’s on this Innova…you shouldn’t have all those pending DTC’s…you should check the reference ground on that MAF…with voltmeter you should see less than 100mv’s with the engine running MAF plugged in…good luck !!
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I will do that now. if it is more what it 100mv's what then?
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The MAF ground is a body ground so you have to access that ground and clean it…I forgot it is a body ground and not a sensor ground which is a ground which goes to the PCM…if you have an incandescent 12 volt test light you can connect it to B+ and probe that black wire…should be bright…if you work on your car a test light is something you should have.
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Well Just changed out my MAF for a new one and it hasn't changed. idle fine with out the MAF hooked up.
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Did you ever post what the MAF reading is at “hot unloaded” idle ??…also look at your IAT after the engine is off for a few hours…it should be close to outside air temperature.
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No I have not. I will do it now.
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the MAF is 10.89 and now I will wait a few hours the check the IAT temp;
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10.89 grams/second engine warmed up with no load ???…holy crap !!…MAF is over reporting !!…shouldn’t be more than 6.2 to 6.3…the PCM is thinking way more air is going into the engine so your injector pulse width will be too much !!…to much fuel !!…what does your MAP sensor reading at idle ??
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it just between 10.89 to 12.53 at idle
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I am going through every ground now and cleaning them..
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I am going through every ground now and cleaning them..
Don’t worry about cleaning your grounds for now !!…concentrate on the grounds that may be involved in your issue.
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Originally Posted by fwarren
it just between 10.89 to 12.53 at idle
If this is in “inches of Mercury” that is Ok !!
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Originally Posted by fwarren
Well Just changed out my MAF for a new one and it hasn't changed. idle fine with out the MAF hooked up.

Is this an aftermarket MAF ??…where did you buy it ??..any codes ??…a new MAF can be bad too…was the MAF ground checked ??

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