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Old May 29, 2023 | 02:46 PM
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Put a 3 rib C5 rear diff with C6 3:42 ring and pinion in my ‘03 Corvette coupe. Everything went well with install. Drove car after install. Did not register speed on speedo cluster until 20 mph. Checked registered speed while driving with GPS. Speedo was dead on accurate. No check engine lights At that point I changed out the speed sensor, same results. BTW, C5 and C6 rear differentials use the same exact speed sensor part number from GM. I have run out of ideas. The one rib rear different original to the car had a 2:73 gear set. Any help would be much appreciated. ;

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you have to re-program your ECU with the updated gear ratio so the shift points and speed calcs will be correct. You can do it with a HHT.
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Old May 30, 2023 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo Bob
Put a 3 rib C5 rear diff with C6 3:42 ring and pinion in my ‘03 Corvette coupe. Everything went well with install. Drove car after install. Did not register speed on speedo cluster until 20 mph. Checked registered speed while driving with GPS. Speedo was dead on accurate. No check engine lights At that point I changed out the speed sensor, same results. BTW, C5 and C6 rear differentials use the same exact speed sensor part number from GM. I have run out of ideas. The one rib rear different original to the car had a 2:73 gear set. Any help would be much appreciated. ;
My money is in the Vehicle Speed Sensor and it expecting to see different values [i.e, programming]. The fact that the gauge comes alive at 20 mph means that its functioning and sending the data to the computer which shows up on the speedo. A 2.73 to 3.42 is a pretty good jump so I'd wager to say some computer calibration is in order].

Think about it this way...on 70's muscle cars when we did gear changes...the speedo would be fucked going from dog leg 2.32 gears to 4:10's lol Would have to change the gears in the tranny to speedo cable to get the speedo to read right. Or if you were cheap and lazy (me)...just know that when it says you going 50...its really 30 mph
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Well the story gets better. It seems when the rear differential was rebuilt the ring gear was not positioned properly. Also the PCM was reprogrammed for the gear change from 2:73 to 3:42 gear set. So with the ring gear not being positioned properly the speed sensor was not picking up the signal 100 percent. Lesson learned. Coming apart soon to reposition the ring gear.

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Ran into this with a 3.90 gear that was in my car when I bought it. Speed sensor was off position relative to the ring gear teeth and didn't register anything until 15-20 mph. I can't remember if it was due to the housing (may have been from an automatic) or ring gear thickness. In your case however I'm not sure how you "reposition the ring gear".
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Ran into this with a 3.90 gear that was in my car when I bought it. Speed sensor was off position relative to the ring gear teeth and didn't register anything until 15-20 mph. I can't remember if it was due to the housing (may have been from an automatic) or ring gear thickness. In your case however I'm not sure how you "reposition the ring gear".
Will let you know once it is apart. Thank You for the info.

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Originally Posted by Missileboy
you have to re-program your ECU with the updated gear ratio so the shift points and speed calcs will be correct. You can do it with a HHT.
I know you need a reprogram for the trans shifts, etc. But I was told years back that the A4 C5s need no correction on the speedo to read correctly! However, the 6 speed C5s do. I don't know why 1 would be different from the other. I think the OPs issue is more with the speed sensor not getting a proper, consistent signal.....
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I know you need a reprogram for the trans shifts, etc. But I was told years back that the A4 C5s need no correction on the speedo to read correctly! However, the 6 speed C5s do. I don't know why 1 would be different from the other. I think the OPs issue is more with the speed sensor not getting a proper, consistent signal.....
The speed is measured from the axel, so as long as the tire size is not changed no difference, However, for shift points the auto is computing axel speed and rpm, which goes out the window with a gear change. So the auto needs tuning to change the shift points to account for the rpm difference to actual mph.
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You do NOT need to reprogram for a gear ratio change for speedometer calibration. Have been down that road before. You simply don't need to do it. You only need to adjust anything if you have an auto trans car for shift points.
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Originally Posted by Turbo Bob
Put a 3 rib C5 rear diff with C6 3:42 ring and pinion in my ‘03 Corvette coupe. Everything went well with install. Drove car after install. Did not register speed on speedo cluster until 20 mph. Checked registered speed while driving with GPS. Speedo was dead on accurate. No check engine lights At that point I changed out the speed sensor, same results. BTW, C5 and C6 rear differentials use the same exact speed sensor part number from GM. I have run out of ideas. The one rib rear different original to the car had a 2:73 gear set. Any help would be much appreciated. ;
The stock C6 3.42 does NOT have a reluctor wheel like the C5 ring gears do. The C6 uses gear teeth as the reluctor and the speed sensor is located just above the teeth.
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