New Tire Choice
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New Tire Choice
My car is manual, 2002, Z51 with Z06 rim size and Z06 front sway bar. Only driven on street so far in fair weather. Track would be fun, but no plans for that.
I have narrowed it down to Continental Extreme Contact Sport OR Mickey Thompson Street Comp. As you're probably aware choices are limited.
I plan to send to ECS for supercharger in near future.
Input on these two tires please...
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mtt-6289
https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tir...rt-02/p/126620
TIA
I have narrowed it down to Continental Extreme Contact Sport OR Mickey Thompson Street Comp. As you're probably aware choices are limited.
I plan to send to ECS for supercharger in near future.
Input on these two tires please...
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mtt-6289
https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tir...rt-02/p/126620
TIA
Last edited by AJ Powers; Sep 30, 2023 at 02:25 PM.
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You're doing like what, preheats w tire warmers at 170F, 190m/h at 1.3G on a 31deg high bank for 45 laps 4.02m/lap Fighting for 0.2sec lead running VP race gas as a licensed CCS racer where podium finished yield $200k?
Tire threads crack me up. At 55mph on Sundays it makes no difference
Tire threads crack me up. At 55mph on Sundays it makes no difference
Drifting
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You're doing like what, preheats w tire warmers at 170F, 190m/h at 1.3G on a 31deg high bank for 45 laps 4.02m/lap Fighting for 0.2sec lead running VP race gas as a licensed CCS racer where podium finished yield $200k?
Tire threads crack me up. At 55mph on Sundays it makes no difference
Tire threads crack me up. At 55mph on Sundays it makes no difference
Racer
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Tire threads always crack me up. Bunch of people who drive the speed limit are 20 over at best or worried about what tire gives the best grip. None of them. They're cold as hell. Put some warmers on them, set them the 175 go out to a warm-up lap and then tell me what your lateral g is. This is too funny just by the cheapest thing at Walmart. Enjoy the wheel hop guys because your tires are cold. It's not going to matter what you buy. Real track tires with high carbon content aren't available to you anyway
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I disagree with douglasjr -- sort of -- but am undoubtedly biased by residing in central Florida. I need tires that grip when the road is wet. I will always side on the tire with the most wet grip. Both the tires you list are rated AA for traction, which is as high as the scale goes.
I run Continentals now -- pretty sure not the exact same model. Have nothing but good things to say about them. Mine are starting to age, and the rubber is getting a bit less pliable but I still have terrific grip in dry and fairly good grip when wet. I have previously run Bridgestones and Goodyears. I do not make similar statements about either of those. Micky Thompson is a wholly owned subsidiary of Goodyear now. I do not mean that as a derogatory, it could very well mean that they are a top quality U.S.A. made tire. Continentals are generally made in Germany, but that could have changed.
I run Continentals now -- pretty sure not the exact same model. Have nothing but good things to say about them. Mine are starting to age, and the rubber is getting a bit less pliable but I still have terrific grip in dry and fairly good grip when wet. I have previously run Bridgestones and Goodyears. I do not make similar statements about either of those. Micky Thompson is a wholly owned subsidiary of Goodyear now. I do not mean that as a derogatory, it could very well mean that they are a top quality U.S.A. made tire. Continentals are generally made in Germany, but that could have changed.
Last edited by redzg; Oct 2, 2023 at 04:27 PM. Reason: correction of rating error
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Nothing wrong with asking advice. Dont know wtf "set them the 175" means, but, hey, what do I know. Apparently the people who rate tires for the various companies dont know wtf theyre doing, either. LMAO.....
Last edited by grinder11; Oct 2, 2023 at 05:48 PM.
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175F. You guys are buying off the rack. Race tires are a different league like pulling off the training wheels... They're light-years ahead. All these street tires are so similar when compared to entry level track tires. Save you money boys. Get ones good in the rain like the OP said.
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Melting Slicks
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Apparently one of the guys commenting above never stabbed the gas in an ECS supercharged C5 on a radial street tire. For a centri blower ECS kits make gobs of low end torque. $8k-$10k just to make your car slower and less enjoyable to drive because it's on ice skates is dumb.
OP if you were keeping your car NA and just street driving I'd agree with the comments above. Just about any decent tire will do. But once you throw another 200+ whp & wtq at the *** end you're going to wish you bought a drag radial. Even when the car will spend 100% of its time on the street. It still wants a sticky compound to not washout if you plan on any spirited low & midrange throttle pulls. Otherwise you have to get used to not having traction and tires easily breaking loose up to 40+mph. Which can be fun, don't get me wrong. But pointless and at times risky. Almost as pointless as buying a supercharger and adding all that power to cruise the local DQ.
My suggestion is skip both tire options above and get an R compound if the car is getting boosted. The Nitto NT555r2's are hard to beat for the price.
OP if you were keeping your car NA and just street driving I'd agree with the comments above. Just about any decent tire will do. But once you throw another 200+ whp & wtq at the *** end you're going to wish you bought a drag radial. Even when the car will spend 100% of its time on the street. It still wants a sticky compound to not washout if you plan on any spirited low & midrange throttle pulls. Otherwise you have to get used to not having traction and tires easily breaking loose up to 40+mph. Which can be fun, don't get me wrong. But pointless and at times risky. Almost as pointless as buying a supercharger and adding all that power to cruise the local DQ.
My suggestion is skip both tire options above and get an R compound if the car is getting boosted. The Nitto NT555r2's are hard to beat for the price.
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Hey Johny,
I see you're in Jersey. How are the 555RII's on cold roads ?
Any handling quirks with the G2's in front and RII's in back ?
What sizes are you running ?
Unfortunately the RII's are back ordered everywhere I look.
Thanks
I see you're in Jersey. How are the 555RII's on cold roads ?
Any handling quirks with the G2's in front and RII's in back ?
What sizes are you running ?
Unfortunately the RII's are back ordered everywhere I look.
Thanks
Melting Slicks
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Hey AJ, I'm running stock size (non Z06) wheels so 285/40/18 rears.
When it's chilly and cold out the R2's are like a normal tire as in they don't grip as well. But they are surprisingly good in rain I can attest to that. Got caught in two downpours and they were just fine driving resposibly (at or just below speed limit).
The one and only time they got squirrely (which was purposefully) on a 1st to 2nd shift on a 45 degree morning when I put the throttle down hard getting onto an on-ramp. They lit right up at over 50mph. Which I did to test them when cool. Otherwise in warmer and hotter days they are sticky and hook right up without heating them up.
I ordered mine from Summit and two rears shipped together and the front G2s shipped separately (3 shipments). It took like two weeks to get all 4.
The G2 fronts pair VERY WELL with the R2 rears. Car rides smooth, quiet and true. And when I rip around They handle and track well. Plus the traction at the mid and low range street driving, dig racing & roll racing, has been outstanding. The G2 and R2 were designed to pair together.
When it's chilly and cold out the R2's are like a normal tire as in they don't grip as well. But they are surprisingly good in rain I can attest to that. Got caught in two downpours and they were just fine driving resposibly (at or just below speed limit).
The one and only time they got squirrely (which was purposefully) on a 1st to 2nd shift on a 45 degree morning when I put the throttle down hard getting onto an on-ramp. They lit right up at over 50mph. Which I did to test them when cool. Otherwise in warmer and hotter days they are sticky and hook right up without heating them up.
I ordered mine from Summit and two rears shipped together and the front G2s shipped separately (3 shipments). It took like two weeks to get all 4.
The G2 fronts pair VERY WELL with the R2 rears. Car rides smooth, quiet and true. And when I rip around They handle and track well. Plus the traction at the mid and low range street driving, dig racing & roll racing, has been outstanding. The G2 and R2 were designed to pair together.
Melting Slicks
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Both are a good tire for the $. When new the NT01 are very similar performers to the R2. The compound is the same if I recall correctly. But the NT01 once worn down are more like a slick but with two grooves. The R2 retains the tread pattern throughout the life of the tire. So the the R2 is a better all around R tire for the street. The NT01 is a better track tire but not great for longevity on the street. They will wear out faster than the R2.
Melting Slicks
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Yeah that blows. It may be worth waiting them out if you're going FI soon. Plus it takes a few weeks for ECS to get their kits tegother for you. So depending on backorder time on tires it may still work out for you.
