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Old Jan 5, 2024 | 08:47 AM
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Is it good or can it damage internal parts like synchros.
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Originally Posted by captain vette
it’s a 2003 and apparently synthetic oil can do damage in to the transmission
No it cannot.

Like mentioned the early (pre-2000) T-56 used paper blocker rings behind the sychros. Some synthetics could POTENIALLY cause accelerated wear of these blocker rings. Chances are the ones who experienced issues already had an underlying issue to begin with. Synthetic oils do a much better job as keeping parts clean. They get blamed a lot for damage or leaks when in reality the leak was already there but covered up by sludge until the synthetic cleaned it out. Then rumors start that synthetics cause leaks, etc.

By 2003 the material was changed so you will be fine with a synthetic in yours.
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Depends on year. I think all the z06 are late enough that you can use synthetic, but the amsoil synthetic is apparently safe to use on all years. It has the right modifiers to protect the organic synchro friction material.
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Depends on year. I think all the z06 are late enough that you can use synthetic, but the amsoil synthetic is apparently safe to use on all years. It has the right modifiers to protect the organic synchro friction material.
it’s a 2003 and apparently synthetic oil can do damage in to the transmission
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Originally Posted by captain vette
it’s a 2003 and apparently synthetic oil can do damage in to the transmission
No it cannot.

Like mentioned the early (pre-2000) T-56 used paper blocker rings behind the sychros. Some synthetics could POTENIALLY cause accelerated wear of these blocker rings. Chances are the ones who experienced issues already had an underlying issue to begin with. Synthetic oils do a much better job as keeping parts clean. They get blamed a lot for damage or leaks when in reality the leak was already there but covered up by sludge until the synthetic cleaned it out. Then rumors start that synthetics cause leaks, etc.

By 2003 the material was changed so you will be fine with a synthetic in yours.
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or just use what the manual calls for.. problem solved
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Moved to C5 Tech.
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or just use what the manual calls for.. problem solved
manual spec are obsolete Dexron||| doesn’t exists anymore
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Originally Posted by captain vette
manual spec are obsolete Dexron||| doesn’t exists anymore
or what they use today then.
no need to pay exorbitant prices for the same product.
your choice.. i m just saying. not to create friction or arguments.
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I have a 98' with the "Paper blocker rings" I did hours and hours of research. In the end I went with the current GM/AC Delco Manual gearbox flavor. PN 88861800. Its a mineral based fluid. The Summit search engine does not list the C5 specifically, but does list this for all Tremec trans used in Corvettes C6 and C7 including the ZR1. In the comments section a couple C5 owners reported in using this fluid as well.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ADO-10-4033
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"TIP: Any vehicle that previously used DEXRON-III for a manual transmission or transfer case should now use p/n 88861800 (88861801 in Canada) Manual Transmission and Transfer Case Fluid."
Another tip:
"All licenses for DEXRON-III expired at the end of 2006 and will not be renewed. Fluids sold in the market after that date bearing claims such as "suitable for use in DEXRON-III applications" or similar wording should be avoided, because 'DEXRON-III' fluids are no longer checked and policed by GM and therefore may not be the originally tested and approved formulation."
YMMV
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Originally Posted by Prop Joe
I have a 98' with the "Paper blocker rings" I did hours and hours of research. In the end I went with the current GM/AC Delco Manual gearbox flavor. PN 88861800. Its a mineral based fluid. The Summit search engine does not list the C5 specifically, but does list this for all Tremec trans used in Corvettes C6 and C7 including the ZR1. In the comments section a couple C5 owners reported in using this fluid as well.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ADO-10-4033
GM Tech link on the subject:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140617...hlink/2009/05/
"TIP: Any vehicle that previously used DEXRON-III for a manual transmission or transfer case should now use p/n 88861800 (88861801 in Canada) Manual Transmission and Transfer Case Fluid."
Another tip:
"All licenses for DEXRON-III expired at the end of 2006 and will not be renewed. Fluids sold in the market after that date bearing claims such as "suitable for use in DEXRON-III applications" or similar wording should be avoided, because 'DEXRON-III' fluids are no longer checked and policed by GM and therefore may not be the originally tested and approved formulation."
YMMV
looks like you’re referring to this, I still have a half quart from my previous 2012 Zr1 and I was not sure if it was compatible with my C5Z . Thank you for made it clear


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My 2002 C5 Z06 has had Royal Purple Synchromax synthetic in it since around 2005. Transmission is fine.
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Originally Posted by Prop Joe
I have a 98' with the "Paper blocker rings" I did hours and hours of research. In the end I went with the current GM/AC Delco Manual gearbox flavor. PN 88861800. Its a mineral based fluid. The Summit search engine does not list the C5 specifically, but does list this for all Tremec trans used in Corvettes C6 and C7 including the ZR1. In the comments section a couple C5 owners reported in using this fluid as well.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ADO-10-4033
GM Tech link on the subject:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140617...hlink/2009/05/
"TIP: Any vehicle that previously used DEXRON-III for a manual transmission or transfer case should now use p/n 88861800 (88861801 in Canada) Manual Transmission and Transfer Case Fluid."
Another tip:
"All licenses for DEXRON-III expired at the end of 2006 and will not be renewed. Fluids sold in the market after that date bearing claims such as "suitable for use in DEXRON-III applications" or similar wording should be avoided, because 'DEXRON-III' fluids are no longer checked and policed by GM and therefore may not be the originally tested and approved formulation."
YMMV
Thanks for doing the research and sharing.

As part of your investigation, did you consider Redline D4 ATF? It is what Redline recommends for our cars.
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I used Amsoil synthetic on my '03 T56, no issues.
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I've been running AMSOIL for +/- ten to twelve years with no problems.
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Originally Posted by vito02
Thanks for doing the research and sharing.

As part of your investigation, did you consider Redline D4 ATF? It is what Redline recommends for our cars.
I have a 98' with the paper blocker rings in the MM6. Newer 2001 and up you can use what you want. Yup I did research the Redline as I have used their products on other cars. I looked on this forum, C5 General, Sticky by Chris Draper. Link here:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...fo-thread.html

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