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Wow, that does not sound like the customary LS valve train noise to me, it is much louder. I would be concerned if I were you, use your stethoscope and see if you can locate the general area where the noise if emanating from. If it is louder from the bottom of the engine, a damaged main / rod bearing, or wrist-pin bushing are strong possibilities. The engine appears to have been modified, do you have any history as to what was done?
Hey, using my stethoscope I dont believe the sound is coming from the bottom, it sounds higher up I THINK.
In terms of work that's been done:
- 383 Stroker Kit
- Eagle Forged Crankshaft
- Larger Camshaft
- LS2 Ported Heads
- Sniper Induction Kit
I am not driving the car anyway or even revving it until I know what the issue is.
Looks like you bought a car with someone's hands all over it...
Clean everything
Pull the valve covers off and check all rocker arms etc that non are loose or a bent push rod
Fix anything broken/wrong
Put in new spark plugs and wires (never a bad idea when getting a used vehicle)
Retest
I actually bought a stethoscope and it arrived today, struggling to work out what I'm listening for. It all kinda sounded the same to me and I can't tell if the rattling I hear on the stethoscope is from the engine or just my stethoscope vibrating against the side of the engine.
Listen to the other side, compare the two. Listen to front and back. You'll figure out if it's the scope rattling.
Do you have good oil pressure? Seeing any metal flakes in the oil?
Well seems like the consensus, is that its not normal so, start digging into it. Starting with the valve covers. Or just drive it. There's many post out there where people just get fursated running down nothing. If your not getting anywhere, i would take it to an mechanic before something lets go.
Not seeing any metal flakes in the oil - my oil pressure gauge is broken sadly so I haven't been able to check.
That engine does NOT sound normal to me. Not trying to be a wise-***, but are you sure your oil pressure gauge is broken, and not showing oil pressure because there's barely any??? That engine is LOUD and not in a good way....
That engine does NOT sound normal to me. Not trying to be a wise-***, but are you sure your oil pressure gauge is broken, and not showing oil pressure because there's barely any??? That engine is LOUD and not in a good way....
The oil pressure gauge is just sat at 80 PSI and literally never moves. I think the battery gauge is broken too because it is sat at 14V but I took it to a local car shop and they did a free battery check that said it's at 6% of it's life.
Just an update for everyone, thank you for your help. I had a mechanic pop over and diagnose - several pistons were misfiring due to oil leaking into the cylinders which makes sense with the spark plug leak.
The rattling is from the engine being off balance and the sudden changes in torque are making the torque tensioner wobble every now and then too.
They have diagnosed it as being the valve stem seals being the cause of the oil leaking into the cylinders so these will be replaced and some new spark plugs whilst I'm at it.
Torque tensioner??? What is a "torque tensioner?" Do you have ported heads? Many times on ported heads, the female rocker arm hold down threads will break into the ports. Intake ports would then be creating a vacuum situation, and can draw oil into the engine that way. Might be worthwhile to unbolt the rocker hold down bolts, clean both them and the female threads in the heads with brake cleaner. Blow everything off/out with compressed air. Then use a small amount of silicone, or white teflon pipe thread sealer on each bolt thread. BE CERTAIN there is nothing on the END of the bolt, or you could hydraulically crack the rocker boss!! Torque the rockers down and see if the problem stops. Easier than removing valve springs and guide seals. If it works, great. If not, you've got 1 less area to worry about. Again, if your heads aren't ported, just go straight for the guide seals. Hope this helps someone.....
Torque tensioner??? What is a "torque tensioner?" Do you have ported heads? Many times on ported heads, the female rocker arm hold down threads will break into the ports. Intake ports would then be creating a vacuum situation, and can draw oil into the engine that way. Might be worthwhile to unbolt the rocker hold down bolts, clean both them and the female threads in the heads with brake cleaner. Blow everything off/out with compressed air. Then use a small amount of silicone, or white teflon pipe thread sealer on each bolt thread. BE CERTAIN there is nothing on the END of the bolt, or you could hydraulically crack the rocker boss!! Torque the rockers down and see if the problem stops. Easier than removing valve springs and guide seals. If it works, great. If not, you've got 1 less area to worry about. Again, if your heads aren't ported, just go straight for the guide seals. Hope this helps someone.....
Sorry I meant the Belt Drive Tensioner. Not sure if I have ported heads or not. I have LS2 swapped headers.
I am not sure what you mean about the threads breaking into the ports?
Weird, tenisner is in the front of engine. I would just take the belt off and see if the noise goes away.
That is a secondary rattle haha, the main noise is 100% coming from the engine and you can see the whole block rocking every few rotations. I've had a mechanic come and diagnose.
As I say several pistons aren't firing from too much oil entering the cylinder throwing off the balance and I am told it's 90% most likely going to be the Valve Stem Seals.
The mechanic said had it been a V4 the engine would have rattled itself to pieces but the weighty V8 semi-balanced itself out with only a slight rocking.
I'm still curious why your heads are painted red. That's not typical on an LS. Makes me wonder what heads you have and how you are going to determine the correct replacement parts.
The mechanic said had it been a V4 the engine would have rattled itself to pieces but the weighty V8 semi-balanced itself out with only a slight rocking.
I'm still curious why your heads are painted red. That's not typical on an LS. Makes me wonder what heads you have and how you are going to determine the correct replacement parts.
I was told it has LS2 Ported Heads, other than that not sure on the colour.
I was told it has LS2 Ported Heads, other than that not sure on the colour.
Ok quick test. When i run into a shake like your. First thing i do is pull each injector connector and if it does change you know that's the bad one. But i think its moot now because there is another problem creating the oil. Instead of pulling all of them to find the bad ones. Or your just going to change them all??
I was told it has LS2 Ported Heads, other than that not sure on the colour.
"LS2 Ported Heads" doesn't mean much.
Look at these images of LS2 ported heads. Do you see any red ones?
Maybe it's just me but I like to be sure the replacement parts are going to fit BEFORE I start the job. It annoys me to take the thing apart only to find out I have to order new parts because what was supposed to fit, didn't.
Ok quick test. When i run into a shake like your. First thing i do is pull each injector connector and if it does change you know that's the bad one. But i think its moot now because there is another problem creating the oil. Instead of pulling all of them to find the bad ones. Or your just going to change them all??
Well the mechanic pulled certain ones, one at a time and each time it made the rocking worse. But engine was reporting 3 cylinders as misfiring though - I am going to replace all valve seals and all spark plugs.
"LS2 Ported Heads" doesn't mean much.
Look at these images of LS2 ported heads. Do you see any red ones?
Maybe it's just me but I like to be sure the replacement parts are going to fit BEFORE I start the job. It annoys me to take the thing apart only to find out I have to order new parts because what was supposed to fit, didn't.
Fair point, I didn't really know you could get heads that differ so much from stock the parts would be different. The layout of it looks the same as all the ones online at least from the outside, I haven't opened it up just yet.
I've got the old owner to reach out to the previous owner before him and find out why it's red lol
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