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Old Mar 5, 2025 | 02:28 AM
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now that the LS3 and LS7 have been discontinued by GM what are the best engine swap options for a c5 Z06? Anybody doing anything with the newer LT1 engines? Seems like the LT engines would be a considerably difficult swap. Really regretting not starting on this project sooner now.

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Old Mar 5, 2025 | 08:13 AM
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It looks like I can still buy LS3 engines?

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Best bet now is a Gen IV out of a junk yard or build your own engine. Plenty of bare blocks out there.

I’m not positive, but you might be able to use a Gen V LT engine block, but I wouldn’t do the full engine. Trying to run Direct Injection on a C5 would be a nightmare.
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Originally Posted by SiegZ06
Hey all,

now that the LS3 and LS7 have been discontinued by GM what are the best engine swap options for a c5 Z06? Anybody doing anything with the newer LT1 engines? Seems like the LT engines would be a considerably difficult swap. Really regretting not starting on this project sooner now.

thanks
What difference does it make to an engine swap that GM may be discontinuing the LS3 or any other engine???
There are many aftermarket sources for new and reman engines, so there is no shortage of them for a swap.
And, used, of course, as mentioned above.
Swapping a later LT1 or LT2 engine is a much more difficult proposition, and not the best way to go.
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Old Mar 5, 2025 | 10:11 AM
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Whatever size you want and try to set it up with a 24x Crank if you have something built. Keep it simple.
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
What difference does it make to an engine swap that GM may be discontinuing the LS3 or any other engine???
There are many aftermarket sources for new and reman engines, so there is no shortage of them for a swap.
And, used, of course, as mentioned above.
Swapping a later LT1 or LT2 engine is a much more difficult proposition, and not the best way to go.
OP may be considering a GM sourced engine for the warranty. HOWEVER-Said warranty will not apply to any engine NOT INSTALLED BY THE GM DEALER!! This is a deal breaker for a lot of people. If you dont qualify for the warranty because you installed it yourself, this opens the door to a lot more sources. If you pay GM to install a $7,000 engine, it will be $10,000 when all is said and done.....
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If your block is still good, rebuild your original block…
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Originally Posted by grinder11
OP may be considering a GM sourced engine for the warranty. HOWEVER-Said warranty will not apply to any engine NOT INSTALLED BY THE GM DEALER!! This is a deal breaker for a lot of people. If you dont qualify for the warranty because you installed it yourself, this opens the door to a lot more sources. If you pay GM to install a $7,000 engine, it will be $10,000 when all is said and done.....
Every engine supplier offers warranty on their engines, whether dealer installed or not, so that shouldn't stop anyone, of course they are not 7 grand, of course neither are the GM engines.
Blueprint Engines has a very good warranty...
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A used L33 with a small blower has the highest reliability over any other option at 600rwhp including rebuilt and crate engines
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I used a gen 3 6.0 with a stroker kit, 408ci, and my ported LS6 heads. P59 PCM. All my gauges work, everything bolted right up. It's in a 2001 Z06.
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Originally Posted by Eleven Bravo
I used a gen 3 6.0 with a stroker kit, 408ci, and my ported LS6 heads. P59 PCM. All my gauges work, everything bolted right up. It's in a 2001 Z06.
iron block?
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Yes iron block. A little heavier, but slightly stronger and cools really well. It has a Vortec supercharger on it.
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
Every engine supplier offers warranty on their engines, whether dealer installed or not, so that shouldn't stop anyone, of course they are not 7 grand, of course neither are the GM engines.
Blueprint Engines has a very good warranty...
Offering a warranty, and actually being covered if something goes wrong, are 2 TOTALLY different things. I wish anyone luck getting free parts and labor. GM WILL NOT COVER IT UNLESS A DEALER INSTALLS IT, PERIOD. You must also purchase the matching PCM. This is only when buying from GMPP.
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Originally Posted by Eleven Bravo
Yes iron block. A little heavier, but slightly stronger and cools really well. It has a Vortec supercharger on it.
Just for reference, the absolute difference in weight is difficult to pin down, but it’s on the order of 90 pounds.
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Originally Posted by redzg
Just for reference, the absolute difference in weight is difficult to pin down, but it’s on the order of 90 pounds.
Sounds right, I was tracking 100 pounds.
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The merv knows his ****. I agree, whatever you do, keep it 24x. I personally won't touch that Lingenfelter conversion box with a 100 foot pole.

Also, IMO the LT engines are way over complicated for not a huge gain. Not to mention the PCM and wiring nightmare to make it all work including the dash.

I have seriously considered a cam swapped 24x swapped used LS3 build for my car and taking the iron forged supercharged 408 combo out to stick in a drag race project.

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Originally Posted by Eleven Bravo
I used a gen 3 6.0 with a stroker kit, 408ci, and my ported LS6 heads. P59 PCM. All my gauges work, everything bolted right up. It's in a 2001 Z06.
That sounds really powerful.
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That sounds really powerful.
It is. Way too much for the street i think I'm going to lower the boost and drop down an injector size and retune, next winter.
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Yup there's a point when too much power isn't fun anymore.
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The merv knows his ****. I agree, whatever you do, keep it 24x. I personally won't touch that Lingenfelter conversion box with a 100 foot pole.

Also, IMO the LT engines are way over complicated for not a huge gain. Not to mention the PCM and wiring nightmare to make it all work including the dash.

I have seriously considered a cam swapped 24x swapped used LS3 build for my car and taking the iron forged supercharged 408 combo out to stick in a drag race project.
Exactly, I don't want anything that's not needed. Buddy of mine had a 1999 FRC, in it was a 6.2l bottom end, 24X Crank, top end was a good set of Cathedrals with a FAST 90 on it if I remember right. Stock Throttle Body. Had a decent Cam in it but nothing crazy. Car made really good power and torque in a nice range.
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I went with a Gen 4 6.0L with Ported 243 heads, 2.020 intake, 1.576 exhaust valves, Fast 92 intake, LS2 TB, .610 lift cam, relocated the knock sensors. Was an easy upgrade. End result was 460 RWHP and 440 RWTR and still get 28 MPG at 75 miles an hour!. Got to love high hp and a low drag coefficient.
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