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Hello
im trying to align the timing cover.
im using a alignment tool. I have also tried with other tool without the Seal installed.
But the cover sits to high.
And i cant get it any lower, no matter what.
Tried to losen some of the oil plan bolts with no luck.
I was thinking of milling the cover like 0.5mm
What do you think?
My seal was leaking from recent can swap.
so i dont want to do this again.
There are 2 tools, one you use without the seal installed. And one with Seal installed. I tried the first but it would not center 100% i had to force the tool in, and as soon i torqued the bolts it got stuck,
I put the Seal on and after i tried the tool you use with Seal installed. Its suposed to be the same size as the pulley. And when i put the tool on you see the gap above.
I cant get it to come lower, i tried differnt ways. It just sits to high. Why Will it be a problem milling just a little bit?
My seal was leaking from recent can swap.
so i dont want to do this again.
There are 2 tools, one you use without the seal installed. And one with Seal installed. I tried the first but it would not center 100% i had to force the tool in, and as soon i torqued the bolts it got stuck,
I put the Seal on and after i tried the tool you use with Seal installed. Its suposed to be the same size as the pulley. And when i put the tool on you see the gap above.
I cant get it to come lower, i tried differnt ways. It just sits to high.
The tool that does aligns the cover without the seal installed is supposed to be tight, and you should lubricate the interfering surfaces. Once the cover is snug, you have to rotatate the tool a pull at the same time. You will also have a much more difficult time if the oil pan is still tight against the block.
Originally Posted by Doski
Why Will it be a problem milling just a little bit?
I'm not going to give a tutorial on tolerance stack up, thermal expansion, and intended design. You take off material, and I can almost guarantee it will leak.
...and in the words of Forest Gump......"that's all I have to say about that"....
Good luck.
I had the cover mixed up with the gasket, sorry. But make sure the gasket is on right or you'll have an oil leak and have to do the job all over again.
The tool that does aligns the cover without the seal installed is supposed to be tight, and you should lubricate the interfering surfaces. Once the cover is snug, you have to rotatate the tool a pull at the same time. You will also have a much more difficult time if the oil pan is still tight against the block.
I'm not going to give a tutorial on tolerance stack up, thermal expansion, and intended design. You take off material, and I can almost guarantee it will leak.
...and in the words of Forest Gump......"that's all I have to say about that"....
Good luck.
The tool was so snug that it would not turn when the bolts were torqued. I also lubricated.
Since there are some tolerances 0,5 mm shouldent hurt anything?
i really dont know what else to do. Have tried everything else.
when i torque the bolts the tool is still in place but stuck. I can get it out with force. When i put on the seal and the other tool i still have the gap? This is also the third seal im trying with.
Tired of this ****..
I think you're over thinking at this point, or installed the previous ones wrong.
On the inner seal surface before you put the Balancer on you want to take your finger and coat it with a very light coating of oil.
You want to make sure the Balancer Hub has no groove in it or any kind of scum on it. Easiest way to clean it is a green scrubby sponge with a little bit of oil. Basically clean it back from where the seal rides, you'll be able to see it.
Looking at the picture, A) it appears that the seal isn't sitting "square" in the timing cover; and B) Is that some sort of sealant that I see, around the outer lip of the seal?? If so, it shouldn't be there, as far as I know....
Put the cover on, loosely bolted down... Put either the tool in or the balancer. Rotate the tool on the crankshaft as you snug the bolts down. Your critical focus point is going to be that the bottom face of the cover is equal distance from the pan/block on both sides. So if one side is sticking down 2-3mm and the other side is up that same amount, get both sides as close to zero as possible.
Put the cover on, loosely bolted down... Put either the tool in or the balancer. Rotate the tool on the crankshaft as you snug the bolts down. Your critical focus point is going to be that the bottom face of the cover is equal distance from the pan/block on both sides. So if one side is sticking down 2-3mm and the other side is up that same amount, get both sides as close to zero as possible.
Timing cover alignement
