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Factory is an H pipe — though the opening in the cross pipe is known to be questionable. If you’re thinking of an x pipe many appreciate the reduction in boat burble, but there is no appreciable power difference.
For what purpose? Are you expecting a HP gain from the X pipe? Shorties were the scam-o-rama from 20 years ago. You might see something on a dyno sheet, but that's about it.
^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^. I once ran Billy Boat 1-3/4" shorties. They did help some according to my trap speeds, but only 1-2mph, maybe. I ran them on my 2000 A4 Vert. The 1997-2000 C5s have more restrictive OEM manifolds. So my slight improvement with the shorties would be even less on the 2001-2004 models. Sell your shorties and go with Kooks or LG long tubes. I went with Kooks 1-7/8 LTs, which covered virtually any hp upgrades I planned in the future. You may lose a bit of low end to lower mid-range torque, but I still recommend 1-7/8. Personal preference, and 1-3/4" tubes will probably be better on a 100% stock engine.
Got the vette down for some upgrades. It has BBK shorty headers on it now with corsa cat back exhaust. Would it be worth it to put an h pipe in now?
If you have a corsa "catback" exhaust, it already comes with a new midpipe with an x-design. You might want to take a peak at what you have under there. You can post a photo here I can help identify what you actually have under there.
If you have a corsa "axleback" exhaust, it does not include a midpipe. Just corsa over axle pipes and corsa mufflers/tip assemblies.
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I have a '99 with HCI. I have often considered a pair of BBK or BBE shorties to keep passing emissions. They are only $500 or $600 a pair, and they claim to pick up 10-15 HP.. who knows..? But I think there are plenty that would drop $500 on a CAI that produces less than that.
Having said that, I took my car to my exhaust guy to check the cats to make sure I haven't plugged one up with the cam, and the whole stock exhaust system had zero back pressure on either bank. I told him I wanted to put a Magnaflow cat-back exhaust on it, and he talked me out of it. Basically he said I might pick up a handful of ponies but only at wide open throttle above 6000 rpm. I think the x-pipe is a similar investment. It will change your sound to something more exotic, but for performance, are we talking 4 or 5 horses at redline? Seems like a lot of work and expense to me.
I have a '99 with HCI. I have often considered a pair of BBK or BBE shorties to keep passing emissions. They are only $500 or $600 a pair, and they claim to pick up 10-15 HP.. who knows..? But I think there are plenty that would drop $500 on a CAI that produces less than that.
Having said that, I took my car to my exhaust guy to check the cats to make sure I haven't plugged one up with the cam, and the whole stock exhaust system had zero back pressure on either bank. I told him I wanted to put a Magnaflow cat-back exhaust on it, and he talked me out of it. Basically he said I might pick up a handful of ponies but only at wide open throttle above 6000 rpm. I think the x-pipe is a similar investment. It will change your sound to something more exotic, but for performance, are we talking 4 or 5 horses at redline? Seems like a lot of work and expense to me.
What David and the Steve's found was that both the H and X bought some power on the low end but less so on the high end -- although the X bought just a little bit more on the high end. That said, it might behoove us to note that the H pipe they tested was a full 2 1/2", while the factory H has been noted to have cross over apertures as small as a dime. An X pipe would at least assure that the crossover was actually doing something.
^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^. I once ran Billy Boat 1-3/4" shorties. They did help some according to my trap speeds, but only 1-2mph, maybe. I ran them on my 2000 A4 Vert. The 1997-2000 C5s have more restrictive OEM manifolds. So my slight improvement with the shorties would be even less on the 2001-2004 models. Sell your shorties and go with Kooks or LG long tubes. I went with Kooks 1-7/8 LTs, which covered virtually any hp upgrades I planned in the future. You may lose a bit of low end to lower mid-range torque, but I still recommend 1-7/8. Personal preference, and 1-3/4" tubes will probably be better on a 100% stock engine.
Back to back dyno test show you will almost always be better off with 1 3/4. You would need a serious FI build to make enough power on a ls1/6 to get there. For that you're giving up appreciable power low that matters with all builds. Maybe it makes sense for a drag build or something.
I have a '99 with HCI. I have often considered a pair of BBK or BBE shorties to keep passing emissions. .
Another option is ls7 manifolds and downpipes. I've seen them real cheap once in a while. LS7 don't get much of a benefit with LT they are so good and different than ls3. As I have 2000's I considered them and shorties rather than buying 2001's but ended up with Maximizer LT and x-pipe from a closeout for $170.