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runamuk: Thanks for the link - just what I was looking for!
One other question. When working properly, and the car is running and in Park, if I press and release the brake pedal repeatedly without touching the shifter, should the solenoid engage and disengage with the brake pedal position?
runamuk: Thanks for the link - just what I was looking for!
One other question. When working properly, and the car is running and in Park, if I press and release the brake pedal repeatedly without touching the shifter, should the solenoid engage and disengage with the brake pedal position?
I never looked inside the shifter mechanism when mine was healthy, so not sure if the depressed brake pedal signal works in concert with the solenoid to physically move a lever or something? It seems to me like pressing/releasing the brake pedal would cause the shifter mechanism to lock/unlock based strictly on the brake pedal signal?
I never looked inside the shifter mechanism when mine was healthy, so not sure if the depressed brake pedal signal works in concert with the solenoid to physically move a lever or something? It seems to me like pressing/releasing the brake pedal would cause the shifter mechanism to lock/unlock based strictly on the brake pedal signal?
The solenoid de-energizes when the brake pedal is depressed.
Does it also "de-energize" when the ignition is turned off OR when the key is removed? Trying to figure out at what point it is energized?
Automatic Transmission Shift Lock Control Description and Operation
The automatic transmission shift lock control is a safety device that prevents an inadvertent shift out of PARK when the ignition is ON. The driver must press the brake pedal before moving the shift lever out of the PARK position. The system consists of the following components:
The automatic transmission shift lock control solenoid
The automatic transmission shift lock control switch
The park/neutral position switch
With the ignition in the ON position, battery positive voltage is supplied to the park/neutral position switch. When the transmission is in the PARK position the contacts in the park/neutral position switch are closed. This allows current to flow through the switch to the automatic transmission shift lock control switch. The circuit continues through the normally-closed switch to the automatic transmission shift lock control solenoid. The automatic transmission shift lock control solenoid is permanently grounded. This energizes the automatic transmission shift lock control solenoid, mechanically locking the shift lever in the PARK position. When the driver presses the brake pedal the contacts in the automatic transmission shift lock control switch open, de-energizing the automatic transmission shift lock control solenoid. This allows the shift lever to move from the PARK position.
Automatic Transmission Shift Lock Control Description and Operation
The automatic transmission shift lock control is a safety device that prevents an inadvertent shift out of PARK when the ignition is ON. The driver must press the brake pedal before moving the shift lever out of the PARK position. The system consists of the following components:
The automatic transmission shift lock control solenoid
The automatic transmission shift lock control switch
The park/neutral position switch
With the ignition in the ON position, battery positive voltage is supplied to the park/neutral position switch. When the transmission is in the PARK position the contacts in the park/neutral position switch are closed. This allows current to flow through the switch to the automatic transmission shift lock control switch. The circuit continues through the normally-closed switch to the automatic transmission shift lock control solenoid. The automatic transmission shift lock control solenoid is permanently grounded. This energizes the automatic transmission shift lock control solenoid, mechanically locking the shift lever in the PARK position. When the driver presses the brake pedal the contacts in the automatic transmission shift lock control switch open, de-energizing the automatic transmission shift lock control solenoid. This allows the shift lever to move from the PARK position.
Thanks for all the great info, really helps my understanding.
I think I have watched every video on the Internet the past few days regarding this issue and I saw a couple people show where all they did was disconnect an electrical harness plug on the shifter harness as a opposed to either replacing the solenoid or breaking/disengaging/restricting (mechanically) the solenoid itself (as a workaround).
I finally thought I would give this a try first. The photo below shows the 4-prong plug I disconnected tonight. Shifter button now shows no resistance to press down in Park now and car starts and goes through gears fine now. The question is, by disconnecting this harness as a solution does it cause any other issues besides deactivating the problem solenoid? I am not seeing any obvious side effects or codes so far.
I spent hours trying to find a solenoid replacement including VetteNutts and apparently they just don't exist?
Long since discontinued. No harm in leaving the connector unplugged...just bag and zip tie.
Thanks for the confirmation!
FYI - Might also mention that unplugging that socket also removed the "Brake Before Shifting" message on the DIC (for anyone reading this).
CORRECTION: I noticed tonight that the DIC message DID appear when I got in the car (not sure what sequence causes it to show up - after 25 years of driving the car, I just became numb as to what causes it to appear).
HOWEVER, apparently the PRND123 interior shifter lighting no longer lights up at night so apparently the socket I unplugged trashed that feature? Now I need too see if there is a way to get that back as I drive almost exclusively a night.