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Old May 12, 2003 | 02:47 PM
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Any suggestions? I think I might try another ASP.
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Old May 12, 2003 | 04:33 PM
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Phillip - I went with the ATI, but it's only 10% reduction. NEVRENUF said he damaged his crank snout when his ASP let go. JMHO. ;) :cheers:
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:withstupid: And it wasn't pretty either! :U
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Phillip - I went with the ATI, but it's only 10% reduction. NEVRENUF said he damaged his crank snout when his ASP let go. JMHO. ;) :cheers:
Well the ASP isnt available for the next month or so. The ATI might be the only route to go. How much of a weight differential?
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Old May 12, 2003 | 06:35 PM
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Email from Dave Farmer *************
ATI is the only real choice, imho. I run the full aluminum setup, 10%
underdrive. It is less than 1/2 the weight of OEM, and of course, 10%
underdrive.

GM Racing was involved in helping ATI pick the proper "rubbers" for the
unit, so I know they know what they are doing.

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Old May 12, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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GM Racing was involved in helping ATI pick the proper "rubbers" for the
unit, so I know they know what they are doing.

So with GM picking the "Rubbers" we should be safe! :lolg: Sorry, couldn't help myself. :D :cheers:
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Old May 12, 2003 | 07:53 PM
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Where do you get the ATI full alluminum pulley??? :confused:
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Where do you get the ATI full alluminum pulley??? :confused:
Here you go http://www.atiperformanceproducts.co...ts/damserp.htm :cheers:
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Old May 12, 2003 | 09:30 PM
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Where do you get the ATI full alluminum pulley??? :confused:
ATI sells an aluminum pulley. It includes an aluminum hub where the standard one has a steel hub. The aluminum hub needs a new seal to work correctly.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 12:01 AM
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Hey Binks - if the ATI is 10% what is the ASP UD ??%?

Phillip - I went with the ATI, but it's only 10% reduction.
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ASP is 25% UD. Many have said that harmonics will kill HP faster than rotating weight.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 12:12 PM
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So what you are saying is the ATI has less harmonics? Even though it has less underdrive @ 10%? This will produce the same HP (in effect) as the ASP @ 25% UD?

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So what you are saying is the ATI has less harmonics? Even though it has less underdrive @ 10%? This will produce the same HP (in effect) as the ASP @ 25% UD?

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The ATI is a damper as well as an underdrive pulley. The ATI rep said that it dampens the torsional virbations which cause the crank to flex making timing more accurate to cylinder pistion. You really need to talk to someone at ATI, the pulley really seems to be the hot lick but it comes at a cost. Why do all of the ASA teams run this damper vs just an inexpensive ASP. Also ATI has contigency cash for regional and national races. You wont be able to pass tech at a big race with an ASP nor will you be able to win any extra contingency cash. :seeya:
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Wow - goog things to know.. :seeya
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The thing that had me puzzled was the ATI rep said that the Crank can flex as much as 8 degrees at high RPM from the combustion stroke. The ATI damper is supposed to eliminate this. All the big nascar teams run them.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 12:42 PM
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8 degrees is alot man :eek: - I wonder if he meant on a 200K mile motor :jester

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8 degrees is alot man :eek: - I wonder if he meant on a 200K mile motor :jester
LOL, he was talking about a normal 500hp ASA/nascar motor.
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Any suggestions? I think I might try another ASP.
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what happened to your "other" pulley? (i'm assuming u had another one, right?)
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I think someone stole it out of my garage.
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So what you are saying is the ATI has less harmonics? Even though it has less underdrive @ 10%? This will produce the same HP (in effect) as the ASP @ 25% UD?

Over,

The ATI is a damper as well as an underdrive pulley. The ATI rep said that it dampens the torsional virbations which cause the crank to flex making timing more accurate to cylinder pistion. You really need to talk to someone at ATI, the pulley really seems to be the hot lick but it comes at a cost. Why do all of the ASA teams run this damper vs just an inexpensive ASP. Also ATI has contigency cash for regional and national races. You wont be able to pass tech at a big race with an ASP nor will you be able to win any extra contingency cash. :seeya:
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And the ASA teams run the LS1 motor ( non-stock of course)- FWIW.
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