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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 04:12 PM
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Default WATER WETTER...Does it REALLY work?

With the summer months upon us and the heat and humidty taking it's toll on our engines..Does the Redline WATER WETTER have a significant impact on cooling the car....the advertisements say 10-20 degrees cooler when mixed with coolant.. :rolleyes:

What's your formula and REAL results?
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 04:25 PM
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My father uses it in his street rod (6-71 blown big block) and says it has been good for 10-15 degrees.
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 04:43 PM
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Vince, it seems to work better with just water.
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 04:54 PM
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and then if you compare it to just water it's the same that is if you can tell with a thermostat.
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 05:02 PM
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The higher the water percentage, the better it works. It works best with 100% water plus 1 bottle of water wetter. On the 92 Coupe I just got rid of, it dropped the coolant temp by about 15-20 degrees with a 70/30 water/coolant mix.
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 05:48 PM
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Yup, it works great. It breaks the surface tension of the water as it passes through the block and allows a better heat transfer to the coolant (I am sure it is a lot more scientific than that, but it werks for me.) I run it with the Dex and distilled water. I am also running the lower thermostat 175 High-flow and with reprogram on the fans she stays nice and cool even in the desert at high speeds. Actually I could not believe it I was running around 100 out of Mojavie headed to Needles and the outside air temp was in the 115 degree range and the coolant was around 190. this is with the AC on full blast and I the cruise control set at 100+. I was more worried about the trany temp and tire pressure as the tire pressures went through the roof and I had to stop and let some air out! I was running something like an 80-85 degree temp differential at speed. And if it is my imiganiation, hey I have about 55K miles on this mix and it didn't break anything, so ooooooo?
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 05:53 PM
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I think I'm going to give it a try also..Is there any risk using Water Wetter instead of Coolant ?? Will it rot the radiator core over time ?

:cheers:

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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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I took out about 10oz of coolant from the overflow tank. I then added one bottle of WW. The everyday temps may have dropped a few degrees, but nothing to get excited about. This is results with 50/50 mix.
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 06:12 PM
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Question? How do you tell what the relative temp is when you have a thermostat? Think about it.
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 06:22 PM
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My temps on the gauge went down between 15 and 20 degrees depending on how aggresssive I am pushing the car. The stuff works!
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 08:07 PM
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Thanks all.:yesnod:...But what's the capacity of the cooling system?....If we go with the suggestions of the manufacturer then the ratio of WW to 100% water... should be what? :rolleyes:
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 08:48 PM
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I dodnt get it wouldnt the thermostat hold the coolant till it reaches operating temp anyway?

Whats the Thermostat set at? whats normal operating temp?
is the differnence between the two where you see the difference?

Its been awhile since ive owned a vette tho.

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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 12:31 PM
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My other toy is a 427 Bronco..... I do alot of slow but higher rpm running and it has dropped the temp by 20-25 degrees depending on the mud caked on the radiator. Stuff works great!
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 01:04 PM
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If we go with the suggestions of [Redline] then the ratio of WW to 100% water... should be what?
WaterWetter works - add one bottle to a freshly flushed system.

For the sake of your cooling system, engine and wallet, do not use
100% water (and use distilled, not tap water for whatever % you
settle on. )

The arguement against water is that it has nothing in it to inhibit
galvanic reaction between dissimilar metals so corrosion takes place
in the system.

On C4s, the head errodes near #7 - symptoms are elevated temps,
white smoke from the exhaust and oil that looks like a mocha grande
- if coolant has found its way into the oil, it will be time for a bottom-end
rebuild. Another favorite is to find coolant on the carpet in the cabin -
always a sign that the heater core has failed - I understand that those
who have experienced this refer to the core as Part #000001 because
every other part has to be removed to get at it.

"yeah, but the racers do it..."

Yes, and the coolant in their vehicles is changed how often ? Now,
how often does it get changed in the typical Vette?

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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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Asking again........

1. Did you do the temp test without the thermostat?
(if you didn't how did you isolate the adjustment factors)

2. What was the before and after ambient temp?

3. What was the before and after barometric pressure?

4. What was the before and after humidity?

5. Did you compare the temp with the reduction in coolant additive?
(Will run cooler with just water)

6. Was the carload and speed constant between tests?

7. What was the wind velocity?

So far I haven't seen any data that can prove the wetter works. Now before you respond to this statement, remember I'm an Engineer and hold a Patent on Thermal Dynamics.




[Modified by jimman, 12:29 PM 6/7/2003]
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 03:22 PM
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Default Re: WATER WETTER...Does it REALLY work? (jimman)

IT'S GLORIFIED WATER PUMP LUBE
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 03:22 AM
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Asking again........

1. Did you do the temp test without the thermostat?
(if you didn't how did you isolate the adjustment factors)

2. What was the before and after ambient temp?

3. What was the before and after barometric pressure?

4. What was the before and after humidity?

5. Did you compare the temp with the reduction in coolant additive?
(Will run cooler with just water)

6. Was the carload and speed constant between tests?

7. What was the wind velocity?

So far I haven't seen any data that can prove the wetter works. Now before you respond to this statement, remember I'm an Engineer and hold a Patent on Thermal Dynamics.


[Modified by jimman, 12:29 PM 6/7/2003]
it's nice to see a little scientific rigor applied to all the hype.

maybe water wetter works, maybe not.

does anyone know if racers, nascar, irl, f1, even the outlaws run this stuff?
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 04:15 AM
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we use it for water pump lube
does anyone know if racers, nascar, irl, f1, even the outlaws run this stuff?

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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 05:57 AM
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Asking again........
1. Did you do the temp test without the thermostat?
(if you didn't how did you isolate the adjustment factors)

- No, the thermostat is in place. The improvement is observed
at temperatures above the point at which the 'stat is fully open

2. What was the before and after ambient temp?

- 78º - 82º F for both

3. What was the before and after barometric pressure?

- unknown

4. What was the before and after humidity?

- 45-50% RH for both

5. Did you compare the temp with the reduction in coolant additive?
(Will run cooler with just water)

- I'm not sure I understand the question. The coolant before and
after was approximately a 50:50 distilled water/glycol mix - I removed
enough coolant (transfered it to the overflow tank, actually) to add
the WaterWetter.

6. Was the carload and speed constant between tests?

- during the before and after tests? Yes.

7. What was the wind velocity?

0 - 5 mph

So far I haven't seen any data that can prove the wetter works.
Well, I didn't expect to be quizzed so I didn't perform a double-blind
test to validate the results.

Look, Red Line didn't invent surfactants. They've been used for decades
in boiler and cooling tower applications. Some guy named Smokey
Yunick wrote about using these additives in performance applications
twenty-five years ago. Back then he had to buy the stuff by the drum,
now we can get it in a bottle. Maybe Redline is just repackaging an
industrial additive or maybe they are having it blended for compatibility
with materials typically found in automotive cooling systems - I don't
know and I don't care.

What I do know is that WW gives me more idle time stuck in traffic and
decreases the time it takes for the coolant temp to drop back to where
it is managed by the 'stat once underway again. This from one bottle
that cost me $8 and maybe ten minutes of my time to install.

I'm an Engineer and hold a Patent on Thermal Dynamics.
On Thermal Dynamics? That must be very lucrative...




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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 09:28 AM
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I used the Red Line Water Wetter in my 96 vert that was prone to high temps at idle - 225 to 235. After a drain, flush and new theromostat I added water wetter. Didn't do a thing to reduce my temps at idle or moving.

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