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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 04:40 PM
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I have been toying with the idea of relocating my coil packs. Would it matter if some are 8" and some are 18"?

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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 08:45 PM
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Simple math would tell you that the electricity can't possibly get through the 18" wires as fast as it will get through the 8" wires... :D
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 10:05 AM
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Simple math would tell you that the electricity can't possibly get through the 18" wires as fast as it will get through the 8" wires... :D
Ok, mister smarty pants :jester

Would the extra length of the wire add too much resistance or is the difference in lengths minimal?

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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 10:55 AM
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Keith,

Ive been trying to get ahold of you. Ive sent quite a few IMs and about 4-5 emails. Please reply. Thanks.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 11:13 AM
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Simple math would tell you that the electricity can't possibly get through the 18" wires as fast as it will get through the 8" wires...
OK, Mr. Know-It-All... at what speed do electrons travel through a conductor?

if you know this, you will see that it would take quite a lot of cable length to make any "speed" difference as to the electrical travel time.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 11:24 AM
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OK, Mr. Know-It-All... at what speed do electrons travel through a conductor?

if you know this, you will see that it would take quite a lot of cable length to make any "speed" difference as to the electrical travel time.
Duh... :rolleyes:
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 09:18 PM
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Actually, electrons travel *quite slowly* through a conductor. I don't have the number off the top of my head, but it is like a couple of seconds per meter. :D

Electrical current though travels quite near the speed of light through a conductor. ;)


Simple math would tell you that the electricity can't possibly get through the 18" wires as fast as it will get through the 8" wires...


OK, Mr. Know-It-All... at what speed do electrons travel through a conductor?


if you know this, you will see that it would take quite a lot of cable length to make any "speed" difference as to the electrical travel time.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 09:47 PM
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I say we take a vote and ask the ladies if size really matters :bb
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 09:54 PM
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Make them all 18".
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 10:07 PM
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Sent you an e-mail
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 06:49 AM
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John, is there a secret solution you could share? :flag
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 09:50 AM
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Make them all 18".
I am thinking about relocating them to the back/rear of the engine compartment. For the most rear cylinders, they will only need about 8" of wire to reach from the coil pack to the plug while the most front cylinders will need about 18". If I made them all 18", then I would have to find something to do with the extra 10" of wire for the rear most cylinders.

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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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Default Re: Non-equal length plug wires (kromberg)

It was never a problem before multiple coils. I don't think it would matter, but do not know for sure.
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 06:46 PM
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It should not matter in the slightest.

If you look at any engine with a distributor, you'll see the wires are all different lengths.

Just trim them right up as you like.

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Old Jun 20, 2003 | 11:04 AM
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Actually, electrons travel *quite slowly* through a conductor. I don't have the number off the top of my head, but it is like a couple of seconds per meter.
it's at the speed of light.
In order for "current" to flow... electrons must travel.

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Old Jun 20, 2003 | 11:34 AM
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As far as engine performace goes, it will make no difference.
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Old Jun 20, 2003 | 11:42 AM
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Actually, electrons travel *quite slowly* through a conductor. I don't have the number off the top of my head, but it is like a couple of seconds per meter.

it's at the speed of light.
In order for "current" to flow... electrons must travel.
Incorrect. electrons have a drift velocity of approx. 3 meters/sec. in a wire conductor. Electrical energy (current) "flows" by transferring the energy between the electrons. :)
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Old Jun 20, 2003 | 12:38 PM
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18 vs 8" w/8 coils should make no differenct.
Lets see,, 1.5 ft / 186,000 fps = 8.0645161290322580645161290322581e-6 seconds.

Now the real question is what is the Q of the coil so we can calculate the time it takes the voltage to follow the electrons and build enough to hit the minimun voltage necessary to make the spark.. Ok, so it is :bs but was fun thinking about it..

Change the coils and have fun with your vet.. 99 Nassau Blue 3.42 :chevy
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Old Jun 20, 2003 | 02:14 PM
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:jester Yeh, yeh, yeh, just keep them shorter than a mile and you will be fine!

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Old Jun 20, 2003 | 04:27 PM
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Default Re: Non-equal length plug wires (jimcork1)

18 vs 8" w/8 coils should make no differenct.
Lets see,, 1.5 ft / 186,000 fps = 8.0645161290322580645161290322581e-6 seconds.

Now the real question is what is the Q of the coil so we can calculate the time it takes the voltage to follow the electrons and build enough to hit the minimun voltage necessary to make the spark.. Ok, so it is :bs but was fun thinking about it..

Change the coils and have fun with your vet.. 99 Nassau Blue 3.42 :chevy
Now I am going to ruin your day! :) :)

Speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. And then you have to factor in the VP (velocity of propogation) as light only travels that fast in free space. Depending on the media, electricity travels at 95 to 60% of the speed of light.

Sorry couldn't resist! :blueangel:


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