6-sp
2001 z06

 

Also look in the power band to see where the car makes the power.

 

They are correct. Don't just go by the dyno numbers. We have a G5X-2 cam car, with stock heads, that have never even been off the car that is running 10.93 @ 125 in chicago in an F body. Just bolt ons and our G5X-2 cam package.
And we have one customer ( a girl) who runs 10.8 @ 126 down here in Texas all year round with our Heads and G5X-2 cam and LGM heads. Wait till we get a cold snap and the temp goes down to 90 deg. :lol:

We have sold 0ver 100 G5X-2 cams and all but 2 have made great hp. We just send them out, and they get installed in various places around the country and they make POWER!
Most cam only 6 speed cars come in at over 400+ rwhp with just bolt ons and our G5X-2 cam. And we have had one C5 in the shop with an A4 and LS 1 edit tuning that hit 407rwhp with a full exhaust, Corsa muffler and LT Headers with an X pipe.
Our best cam only with untouched heads hit 425 rwhp with full exhaust and bolt ons with a short belt. ( hey, that is the way he races it, so that is the way we dynoed it)

So have fun picking a cam and head package. Anything that we do for a car is done with a passion. We don't leave much on the table with any of our parts. From our Coil over shocks to our LG Pro Long Tube headers. or our 6 piston stock replacement calipers or anything else we build or design. So you won't get any better than LG Motorsports. Only different.

Sorry to blow our own horn but the trumpet was laying there.

Thanks
Lou G




[Modified by LG Motorsports, 11:02 PM 8/18/2003]

 

And if you want to hear what the G5X2 H/C package sounds like, here is a link to my post with a few videos:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=631560


[Modified by MTWallet, 11:08 PM 8/18/2003]

 

Okay I'm ready to have my head handed to me but, Jesus Christ! These dyno numbers are getting completely out of hand. For two years now I have watched as a simple H/C package seems to have jumped from around 380 RWHP to what now seems a common 425 to 450 RWHP and even some that are higher yet. I have no doubt there have been improvements over the last couple of years in the H/C packages, but 50 to 70 RWHP? I've just got to say it, NO WAY! At a local dyno shop where they use a 248 Dynojet, the owner was nice enough to spend some time with me showing me what other LS1's are pulling for HP. He overlapped graphs, pulled up different tuning senerio's, showed me dyno graphs from cars with cam changes etc. etc. Now this guy is an old racer who doesn't do many installations but is set up for LS1 edit tuning (which he did for me) and when I asked him how many LS1/LS6's have managed 400RWHP..... "Very few and I can't thing of but one right now. A Vette with a Magnacharger pulled 404 RWHP". He pulled up the dyno sheet to show me. Now I'm not calling anybody names here but somebody needs to start being more honest. Probably the operaters of these dyno's. Now as I get ready to be blasted here, I would appreciate anyone smoking me to provide me with your dyno numbers a quarter mile time, a mph and most importantly, a sixty foot time. That way I can seperate the BS'ers from the real racers. And nothing I have said here is referring to race cars. I'm talking about the regular street guy who has done the H/C package and a few other compliment'ry mods. One more thing. A few years ago I had a "known to every body" Vette guru do a stroker for my 96 Vette. He handed me a dyno sheet reading 397 RWHP. I drove the car 1200 from his shop to my home and had it dyno'ed there...311 RWHP. To this vendors credit he took my car back and got it right. But he never explained that 397 dyno sheet. Sometimes we don't get what we paid for. Fire jacket on, I'm ready.

Gary

 

i have to say....carteks rev 2 x pkg is the way to go the #'s are the highest going in the 470's rwhp and 430's rwtq

soon to be higher as my car is due in for some much needed updates

i have one of the 1st x pkgs over 1yr old and there have been many many updates since then look for 480's shortly :eek:

as was stated before dont just get cought up with dyno #s

look at track results of other c-5's and z06's NOT F-BODY'S WITH NO POWER STEARING AND A SHORT BELT...4.56 GEARS ETC ETC.....APPLES TO APPLES

AND HAVE THE TIME SLIP and VIDEO TO PROVE IT

that alone will show you even more who is on top

my car runs pretty good with a best of 10.86@126 mph

and c-5 pigs car ran a 10.80@127

both these cars have older x pkgs

i do plan to break my best in the next 3 months after i get the rev 2 updates

feel free to call dave@ cartek he can answer any questions you might have





[Modified by brent eb02, 12:56 AM 8/19/2003]

 

KH24 is his handle here on CF. He made 472rwhp and 423rwtq if i remember correctly.

 

Garry,
I can tell you this much...
I used the exact same dyno for my before and after #'s and everything is listed in my sig. I will also tell you that my #'s are lower than they should be and will soon be upwards of 440rwhp when I get a few bugs worked out. Namely, more air, fuel and spark. Just ask anyone with any of the later H/C packages and you'll soon find out that a well planned "matched" H/C package will put out great #'s.

 

Gary,
At 54 yrs old and you are retired. You must have been a school teacher or a military man. I was a Math teacher once. With a draft number of 16, ( sorry for you younger guys who don't know what that is)

I will bet you that if you do the following; a Z06 intake manifold, Blackwing, shaner ported Throttle body, pulley, LG Pro Long Tube headers and our G5X-2 cam package, and let LGM do the LS1 edit then you will hit 390 to 400rwhp SAE corrected on a Dynojet, with your car if it is an M6.

And if you don't, I will take it all back refund your money PLUS give you $1000 to cover your inconvenience.

I am ready when you are. :)

LG

PS, 18 months ago we had what we thought was the baddest cam and head package in the land at 430rwhp. Now it is called our "executive package" :lol:

 

Couldn't finish the 9th grade. But always wanted to work. Started a small buisness, worked long and hard and got lucky. Here's my 2000 Vette as it stands now.... H/C package 3 years old, 202 and 1.57 valves, Lunati cam ( they only made 3 back then. I suspect I have the mildest), Ported TB and MAF. I do have the LS6 intake. MTI ram air. TPIS LT headers with gutted cats and B&B Tri-flow. Larger power duct. LS6 clutch and 3.90 gears. LS1 edit by Woodbridge Dynotech. The numbers.....394 RWHP tuned back to a safe 387. Torque is 369 RWTQ. I'm still trying to figure why I'm making so much less torque than everybody else in America. Anyway, my numbers are well behind most and by a good bit. Yet while I haven't run in the 11's, I feel I can with a decent short time. I like to race Turbo Buicks and only take the Vette to the track once a year. Last time out....12.73 with a tire spinning 2.42 60 foot time at 115.8 mph. My wife hasn't been to Texas in a while. Maybe we can make it somtime in the near future. May give you a call later in the week.

Gary

 

I got a cartek package and I have been very pleased with how its been running. I have not run in the cold air yet but once I do 10s will not be a problem. Just last saturday in the 90 degree temps with the DA around 3000 and humidity close to 100% (it rained during the corvette challenge) I ran an 11.21 and the slowest I went was 11.31 due to hot lapping the car, while most times were in the mid 11.2s. I am sure the 11.21 would have been in the 11.1s if I would have paid attention to the shiftlight i just installed instead of just shifting when i felt like it :bb Oh and the gas station attendant gave me 93 octane by mistake instead of 94 but i dont know if that really made a difference. I belive brent was right behind me that day running in the 11.3s (dont quote me though cause he is a good driver and I dont know what im doing out there...just smash the throttle right?) also in the worst possible conditions and with a track getting worse and worse after each pass.

Bottom line is this...my car is in 100%stock trim except for the ccw drag package which does reduce the weight slightly but keep in mind i have the added weight of a steel rollbar and 5 point harness. I have both stock seats in the car and nothing at all has been removed or changed the lighten the weight. The car makes the power and will go 10.7s or less when the cooler air gets here and I run on a track with a better prep. There are other packages out there but im just telling you my experience with mine. Most people cant believe im getting these times out of a stock bottom end NA car but I am. Most ask to see the bottle but believe me its not there. Anyone from the East Coast Supercharging Corvette Challenge can vouch for any cartek cars times.

With all that being said just choose someone that will stand behind their work incase there ever is a problem. Its expensive enough to get heads and cam done as it is so make sure you go to a tuner that can get it done right the first time with no bugs to work out.


[Modified by kh24, 3:10 AM 8/19/2003]

 

Gary,

Not to down play you, but 03' Z06's with minor bolt ons make more then 380 RWHP.

Honestly I think your tuner may not be the greatest. Magnacharger cars make well over 400 and ATI cars make well over 500 (some 600+)

3 years ago the LS6 was a brand new item. All the 2001 Z06's and 2002+ vettes have the ls6 block. LS6 heads have helped along with better and better flow designs.

Also, your 3.90's will eat some of your dyno numbers, and it is also safe to say that anything from Lunati is Mild...extremely mild to what is being metioned in this thread! Altitude, and other variables, also play a role in dyno numbers...but most important is track times.

My stock Z06 (w/vortex rammer) went 12.0 @ 119 with a 1.7XX 60' (361 RWHP)

 

KH24
thanks for the feedback, I was hoping to get someone to chime in with first hand experience with the Cartek X package.

Nice times, what kind of 60' times do you run? Also, do you have a dyno sheet you can post or send me? I know that's NOT the only thing to consider but it is interesting data.

Oh, also..which cartek package do you have? It sounds like they have had different versions of their X. Do you have the specs? Was fly cutting of the pistons required?

Thanks!

 

I was asking for OWNED and run outside the northeast. I have yet to see or hear of a cartek pkg turn the #s tossed around on the forum with a pkg. not installed at Cartek's shop even in an f-body with a short belt.

 

Even though :iagree: , probably best not to reopen this can of worms....

 

Gary Harris;

you dont believe the results of many so you ask for data saying 'please include data...most importantly your 60' time'. Since when does a 60' speak accurately of the power of a car?? RARELY does. Take an FRC C5 with a completely stock hp motor, put in 4.56 gears, bolt on drag slicks, drop a few pounds and a good driver = 1.6 or less 60'. All on 310rwhp. Trap speed is most indicative of power output, not RT, 60' or ET. I trap at nearly 140mph with my C5 but my 60' is only 1.7-1.8 with an ET of 10.7. My car weighs a ton with all the safety and nitrous equipment plus I am lazy off the line to preserve the rear end (which is now blown...another story). Point is, There are many, MANY daily driven, smog and street legal C5's and F-body's out there doing big numbers on the dyno AND at the track with h/c packages only. These are the facts. period. But, you will call BS until you find a good h/c package and a good tuner. good luck!!

 

I look forward to the fyno sheets and the new manifold

 

that must say that some can't do the proper install that cartek can. personally me, myself, i could care less, but it seems like u are trying to imply something else and open up a can of worms. my first post here was go with a tuner closest to where he lives for good reasons well known to everyone. i dont keep statistics on carteks set-ups in other areas but if u are really curious then give them a call if u really wanna find out. all i can write about is about what i personally know so let's keep this thread cool :cheers:

i dont know who installed mti 427 roadster's old same cartek set-up i have but he ran the same exact times i did 11.5's but i guess that's too slow for everyone now :lol: :yesnod:


[Modified by robsvette, 6:57 PM 8/19/2003]

 

Too bad we don't have a Cartekin So Cal. We need one bad!

 

RWJ383,
For the years 2001 and 2002 I made over 800 passes. Not trying to sound like an authority because of that but letting you know I've been to the track a few times and understand the "numbers". Without going into a long speech or explanation i will just say that ET+MPH+60 ft times, tell a complete story. We agree that MPH=HP. We agree that 60 ft times= ET. I can look at a time slip and can tell if the run is somehow out of the norm. A 2.40 short time on a 12.0 pass equals spinning tires on an otherwise normal run. A 12.0 pass with a good 60 ft. (say 1.60) at 125 mph says Nitrous or supercharging. You've answered your own question with the examples you gave. Nitrous + gears = etc. etc. but if I don't know the 60 ft. you gave in the example i can't figure out what you've done, I can make an educated guess. Lastly, reread my post. I have. And I didn't say 60ft equaled HP. You said it "rarely does". I'll go furthert than that and say it never does ( although technically it could. It does require HP to move a car) . "Most importantly" was meant to mean important to me as I wanted to compare numbers. Are we still best friends?

Gary