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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 09:30 PM
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I just replaced the factory plugs/wires with the NGK TR55s and MSD wires on my '98 coupe. I gapped the plugs at .055 and used a little anti-seize to put them in. Hooked up the wires and everything seems fine. The engine runs very smooth.

The MSD wires don't have any heat shields like the stock GMs. Do they need any special shielding or will they be fine without?

Is it correct to use some anti-seize on the plugs?

What about dielectric grease on the wires?

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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 09:33 PM
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You have done everything correct..........except:
The heat sheilds on the old wires pull off with little effort and you should be able to put them on the MSD's. Nice job and glad you're happy with the results.
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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The heat sheilds on the old wires pull off with little effort and you should be able to put them on the MSD's.
I checked and the (metal) heat shields from the stock GM wires are too big for the MSDs. They actually rattle when installed.

Do you really need them with the MSDs? Do most people use coolsox (sp?) or something similar? Is this a non-issue and I shouldn't worry about it?

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Default Re: Plug and Wire Questions (mshipon)

I don't have first hand experience, but from what I've read, you should be fine as long as you don't have headers.

I re-used the stock shields on my GM hotwires - they fit perfectly.
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 02:01 PM
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I re-used the stock shields on my GM hotwires - they fit perfectly.
Me too!
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 02:23 PM
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I re-used the stock shields on my GM hotwires - they fit perfectly.
They do not fit perfectly with the MSD 8.5mm wires. I emailed MSD with the question about shielding. I'll post the response when I get it.
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 04:47 PM
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Hi Martin:

Glad to hear that the plugs/wires went in ok. I have asked the same question regarding anti-seize on the plugs. I was told that you should not use anti-seize because since the heads are aluminum, there is a chance that the plug can be over torqued and actually "stretch" too far into the head. I'm not sure I really buy into this. I also was told buy a mechanic I trust that if you only use a small amount of anti-seize (don't over do it), and torque the plug correctly you will be fine. Anyone else?

Have fun tomorrow night at the final cruise night. See you Sunday (pls no rain) at the Harvest of Vettes show:auto:

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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 07:27 PM
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Ahem, idiot-boy here. I need to know what advantages these plugs and wires have over stock. Piece of mind? Extending the life of the engine? Real performance gains? Thanks.
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 08:10 PM
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Ahem, idiot-boy here. I need to know what advantages these plugs and wires have over stock. Piece of mind? Extending the life of the engine? Real performance gains? Thanks.
In my case, I bought my '98 with 26,000 miles on it and wasn't sure of the condition of the plugs and wires. As it turned out, when I removed the original (?) plugs, they were gapped anywhere from .050 to .075. The NGKs seem to be on the top of the list these days, so I went with them. The car is actually running a lot smoother now. As far as the wires were concerned, MSD also comes highly recommended.

I guess it's different strokes for different folks... some like all stock and others, like myself, try to replace stock with what's supposed to be slightly higher quality.

Martin
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 08:34 PM
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Default Re: Plug and Wire Questions (mshipon)

1) You should be fine w/o the heat sheilds. Just check the boots every once in a awhile for "crisping." I have a stroked SBC in another car w/ headers and the MSD's and have yet to have a problem.

2) If you use a small amount of anti-sieze and snug the plugs, you will be fine; Just don't overtighten the plugs, this is what causes problems, regardless if you use anti-sieze or not.

3) Have fun. Chris
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Old Sep 12, 2003 | 04:39 PM
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Have had MSD 8.5 mm wires on my 2000 Cpe for over 1-1/2 yrs with no shields(they dont fit over the MSD's) with no problems.
Fred K.
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Old Sep 12, 2003 | 04:49 PM
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Default Re: Plug and Wire Questions (mshipon)

What about dielectric grease on the wires?
I slop a bunch of dialectric grease inside the boot, it makes plug changes easier the next time. :yesnod:
You should be ok without the heatshields as long as you have the stock exhaust, if you put headers on the car then make sure you go with cool sox. :cheers:
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Thanks everyone for your help.

Martin
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Old Sep 12, 2003 | 08:31 PM
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I put the stock shields back on with the MSD 8.5" no problem. :thumbs:
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