Quest for 11's
Melting Slicks
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Re: Quest for 11's (BayouVette)
I've got less mods than you and have you beat by over a half a second. Once the air is a little better I'll have my 11s with stock internals. Mikie C on this forum has run 11.88 on stock internals so far, he's from central NJ also. I think it's time to look at everything carefully to see what's wrong before you start throwing parts at it to go faster. I see you're in central NJ, give Cartek a call (908)317-4496.
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Re: Quest for 11's (C5JONNY)
First of all you say " no tune". If you in fact never tuned your car then you should do that first. Second, what tires are you running?? You will need drag radials in your quest for 11s. Third, with you mods, tuning and drag radials you should already be close to that 11.99 mark....Tony
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Re: Quest for 11's
You should have at least gotten tuned to change shift points with the 3.73. And if you are not using drag radials, you probably need them.
Cooler weather willl help too.
Yes a cam will get you into the 11's (provided you have tires and maybe LT headers if you don't have them.)
Give Chris a call I am surehe can help you with the tuning
Cooler weather willl help too.
Yes a cam will get you into the 11's (provided you have tires and maybe LT headers if you don't have them.)
Give Chris a call I am surehe can help you with the tuning
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Re: Quest for 11's (REDGAR)
No dout!
:thumbs: :iagree:
You should have at least gotten tuned to change shift points with the 3.73. And if you are not using drag radials, you probably need them.
Cooler weather willl help too.
Yes a cam will get you into the 11's (provided you have tires and maybe LT headers if you don't have them.)
Give Chris a call I am surehe can help you with the tuning
Cooler weather willl help too.
Yes a cam will get you into the 11's (provided you have tires and maybe LT headers if you don't have them.)
Give Chris a call I am surehe can help you with the tuning
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Melting Slicks
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From: central NJ
Re: Quest for 11's (tabbruzz)
I am on BFG 275 DR's, and my shift points and everything have been adjusted for the TC and gears. My 60 times are pretty bad though my best only being in the 1.8's. I guess my driving is the biggest problem. I will take the car to ECS after the next challenge though if my times are still the same.
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Re: Quest for 11's (C5JONNY)
I am on BFG 275 DR's, and my shift points and everything have been adjusted for the TC and gears. My 60 times are pretty bad though my best only being in the 1.8's. I guess my driving is the biggest problem. I will take the car to ECS after the next challenge though if my times are still the same.
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From: GARDENA Ca, State Of Konfusion
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Re: Quest for 11's (C5JONNY)
With my current mods, will an aggresive cam by itself get me into the 11's? I currently run consistent 12.60's with my current setup, and no tune.
Maybe your stero equipment is weighting you down! :eek:
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From: Central NJ
Re: Quest for 11's (C5JONNY)
I am on BFG 275 DR's, and my shift points and everything have been adjusted for the TC and gears. My 60 times are pretty bad though my best only being in the 1.8's. I guess my driving is the biggest problem. I will take the car to ECS after the next challenge though if my times are still the same.
Melting Slicks
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Re: Quest for 11's (wallstAL)
With your mods and a real aggressive cam, it should not be a problem especially at Englishtown. :yesnod: :yesnod:
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Re: Quest for 11's (NJVetteGuy)
With your mods and a real aggressive cam, it should not be a problem especially at Englishtown. :yesnod: :yesnod:
Englishtown is one of the worst tracks for traction, I wouldn't say that. With the same DA, I ran the same numbers at Beech Bend in Bowling Green KY. The location of the track has nothing to do with it unless it's at a high altitude, if your car is tuned correctly and you can drive it you'll run the number:cheers:
Englishtown is one of the worst tracks for traction, I wouldn't say that. With the same DA, I ran the same numbers at Beech Bend in Bowling Green KY. The location of the track has nothing to do with it unless it's at a high altitude, if your car is tuned correctly and you can drive it you'll run the number:cheers:
E-town is definitely not the best track for traction. Cecil in Maryland blows away E-town in track prep. Westhampton L.I.'s track prep is marginal too, but if you can hook, it's exactly sea level. :D
Melting Slicks
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From: Collin County Texas
Re: Quest for 11's (wallstAL)
What is the track elevation at English town ?
I just check the weather and at the last CC it was in the 600's ft D/A.
I will take 600ft D/A and a set of slicks, over 2500+ D/A and good track prep any day. :lol:
I just check the weather and at the last CC it was in the 600's ft D/A.
I will take 600ft D/A and a set of slicks, over 2500+ D/A and good track prep any day. :lol:
Melting Slicks
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From: Central NJ
Re: Quest for 11's (RWhite)
Brent eb02 on this forum ran 10.99 with nearly 100% humidity at Bradenton, FL at the Breathless shootout this year :yesnod: I guess that the NJ guys muct have loaded the Englishtown track on a trailer brick by brick, brought it to Florida, raced on it and brought it back to be ready for the next weekend :rolleyes: I won the CC this weekend, the DA was about 1100 and I had trouble hooking up on ET Streets. The best 60' I could get was a crappy 1.71 walking the car out of the hole. With a +4100 DA at the North-South shootout a few months ago in Bowling Green KY, I managed a 12.36 @ 109 with consistent 1.62 60' times. If you guys want to say that Englishtown is some magical place that instantly makes cars faster then you should have come out to the North-South shootout this year and raced with us :yesnod: Then when us NY/NJ/CT guys lay down the numbers and you see it in person there will be no needless arguments or internet bench racing. :seeya
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Re: Quest for 11's (NJVetteGuy)
What is the elevation at Englishtown ?
What time did you run your last pass? I used the numbers from http://www.wunderground.com
On all my runs this site has been very close within 50ft, of my portable weather station that I log all my runs with.
I won't argue D/A it is really simple. It has an effect on what you run.
BTW- Humidity does not effect D/A nearly as much as one would think. ;)
Example: Baro 30.05 Temp 62 Humidity 60% = 368 Ft
Example: Baro 30.05 Temp 62 Humidity 99% = 619 Ft
+39% Humidity change= 251 Ft Change
It is the Temp that affects D/A the most.
Example: Baro 30.05 Temp 85 Humidity 60% = 2282 Ft :eek:
Example: Baro 30.05 Temp 55 Humidity 60% = -180 Ft
30 degree change = 2462 Ft change
To sum it up I say bring on the cool air... :seeya
What time did you run your last pass? I used the numbers from http://www.wunderground.com
On all my runs this site has been very close within 50ft, of my portable weather station that I log all my runs with.
I won't argue D/A it is really simple. It has an effect on what you run.
BTW- Humidity does not effect D/A nearly as much as one would think. ;)
Example: Baro 30.05 Temp 62 Humidity 60% = 368 Ft
Example: Baro 30.05 Temp 62 Humidity 99% = 619 Ft
+39% Humidity change= 251 Ft Change
It is the Temp that affects D/A the most.
Example: Baro 30.05 Temp 85 Humidity 60% = 2282 Ft :eek:
Example: Baro 30.05 Temp 55 Humidity 60% = -180 Ft
30 degree change = 2462 Ft change
To sum it up I say bring on the cool air... :seeya
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Re: Quest for 11's (NJVetteGuy)
Artie do Al was only saying he as seen good time from us in NJ at Englishtown because I would say that a good 70% of the racers on this forum race there and we always post our times.
I agree, nothing magical about E-town unless you are talking weather and actual altitude which I think is about 100'. However Artie, you cannot compare E-town Saturday's to E-Town Sundays. Meet me on Sunday and you will see.
Roger, not sure where you saw the 600' but different weather machines will read different DA's. I have seen this even with same brand machines. Mine was reading about 1800 feet before it broke so I am not sure how low it got at night but don't think it was as low as 600'.
I agree, nothing magical about E-town unless you are talking weather and actual altitude which I think is about 100'. However Artie, you cannot compare E-town Saturday's to E-Town Sundays. Meet me on Sunday and you will see.
Roger, not sure where you saw the 600' but different weather machines will read different DA's. I have seen this even with same brand machines. Mine was reading about 1800 feet before it broke so I am not sure how low it got at night but don't think it was as low as 600'.