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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 09:17 AM
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i saw a pair of Borla ss shorty headers for a 2001-2003 for sale.
Are they good? these are their latest design. does anyone have any dyno #'s or fit comments :confused:
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 10:02 AM
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Waste of money. Your stock "header-shaped" manifolds are just as good as the shorty headers. If you are seriously interested in headers, go long tube from TPIS, LGM, Stainless Works, FLP (some quality problems noted from Forum members with the FLP), etc. There are a lot of headers out there to choose from and they will give you 20-30 RWHP.

I installed a set of SLP headers (never again!!!!! PIA installation) and gained 23 RWHP on the dyno. Plus my Corsa indy exhaust are a tone deeper :D

Just my thoughts. Enjoy.
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 10:09 AM
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Default Re: do you have Borla shorty headers? (jeanlucpicard)

Waste of money. Your stock "header-shaped" manifolds are just as good as the shorty headers. If you are seriously interested in headers, go long tube from TPIS, LGM, Stainless Works, FLP (some quality problems noted from Forum members with the FLP), etc. There are a lot of headers out there to choose from and they will give you 20-30 RWHP.

I installed a set of SLP headers (never again!!!!! PIA installation) and gained 23 RWHP on the dyno. Plus my Corsa indy exhaust are a tone deeper :D

Just my thoughts. Enjoy.
:iagree: Shoties :eek: I mean Shorties are not much difference from the stock manifolds. Get some of the Production LG/Borla Long Tube Headers w/3" Xpipe & 3" Midpipes. I gained 39.4rwhp/42.8rwrq :eek:

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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 12:06 PM
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Default Re: do you have Borla shorty headers? (Cary)

the Production LG/Borla Long Tube Headers w/3" Xpipe & 3" are sweet.
those hp/torque numbers are outstanding
i am concerned with heat and noise up front. every mod has a compromise
i am still not convinced i need headers
what to do? what to do? :crazy:
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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cary- you picked up almost 40horse, are you using stock heads, intake, cam? where did you get the borla l.tubes from?
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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my winter project is to install stage-2 LS6 heads and a 224,224-114cl cam
these parts i have. I will be installing a 3.90 rear before winter.
I saw a set of borla headers on E-bay something around $650
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 01:28 PM
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Just keep your eyes open on the parts for sale section. i just picked up a set of used TPIS headers, in great condition, for $650 from 21mc.
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Has anybody tried pacesetter headers?
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i have on a non-corvette application. went on without any problems,
lined up well. this still does not tell you to much
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 02:03 PM
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cary- you picked up almost 40horse, are you using stock heads, intake, cam? where did you get the borla l.tubes from?
My long tubes are the Production LG/Borla LT Headers. They are designed by Lou Gigliotti of LGMotorsports and mass produced by Borla. Please read the mods in my sig & take a look at my website http://members.cardomain.com/magredc5

Yes, I'm using stock heads/cam.
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Default Re: do you have Borla shorty headers? (Mr. Jones)

the Production LG/Borla Long Tube Headers w/3" Xpipe & 3" are sweet.
those hp/torque numbers are outstanding
i am concerned with heat and noise up front. every mod has a compromise
i am still not convinced i need headers
what to do? what to do? :crazy:
I agree these are great headers that make great #s and will work well with what you plan to.

As far as the noise goes, any header will make it seem that you went to louder mufflers as well. My B&B shorties made my Corsa Tourings sound a lot like Indys.

Since the LG Long Tubes are not made of stainless, you would want to have them coated anyway and that will also make a big difference in keeping the heat down. I used Jet-Hot Sterling for coating my B&B Shorties and the result was less heat then the stock manifolds on my '99 :cool:

The cost of Jet-Hot coating the LG headers themselves would be around $225 more or less. You could also have them coat the 3" exhaust which would significantly reduce the heat radiated into the center tunnel, if you wanted to splurge. I don't have any idea how much that would cost but you could check it out :cheers:
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 04:41 PM
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Since the LG Long Tubes are not made of stainless, you would want to have them coated anyway and that will also make a big difference in keeping the heat down. I used Jet-Hot Sterling for coating my B&B Shorties and the result was less heat then the stock manifolds on my '99 :cool:

The cost of Jet-Hot coating the LG headers themselves would be around $225 more or less. You could also have them coat the 3" exhaust which would significantly reduce the heat radiated into the center tunnel, if you wanted to splurge. I don't have any idea how much that would cost but you could check it out :cheers:
:bs :bs :bs Are you an idiot? :jester Oops, sorry about that but you are posting false info about the Pro LG/Borla LT Header system.

The Pro LG/Borla Header system, includes 32" Headers, 3"Xpipe, 3"Midpipes, connected to my Borla Stinger system is all aircraft grade Stainless Steel . So, my complete exhaust system is Stainless Steel. I did not need to have the Headers Jet-Hot Coated and have never heard of anybody having the catback system Jet-Hot Coated :lolg: My engine bay does not get over heated and do check it after driving around awhile.

However, I did have a tunnel heat shield installed at the same time of the Header system install. Kind of expensive but even before the Header install I noticed my center console area would get rather warm. Now, with the Headers & tunnel heat shield my center console area is actually cooler than before. Plus, if someone is really worried about the heat or noise they could do the Mike Mercury interior insulation mod... http://mikemercury.home.att.net/sound.htm

I did not mean to flame but you were wrong about the Pro LG/Borla LT Header system not being SS because they are definitely Stainless Steel .

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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 04:46 PM
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Default Re: do you have Borla shorty headers? (Cary)

I don't think I'm a idiot but I certainly was wrong in stating that the LG/Borla LT setup is not stainless :conehead They are in fact 304 Stainless like my B&B shorties.

While nobody needs to have stainless headers coated, it does make a significant difference heatwise and the Sterling coating looks :cool: in my opinion. I have never heard of anyone coating their intermediate/x-pipe either (that idea just popped out of my head while writing) but it might be interesting to compare the cost of coating the pipes vs a heat shield.

Thanks Cary for catching my mistake and clearing up any confusion I may have caused :cheers: As my ex says: Most of the time you're right but when you're wrong your're dead wrong :lol:
:bs :bs :bs Are you an idiot? :jester Oops, sorry about that but you are posting false info about the Pro LG/Borla LT Header system.

The Pro LG/Borla Header system, includes 32" Headers, 3"Xpipe, 3"Midpipes, connected to my Borla Stinger system is all aircraft grade Stainless Steel . So, my complete exhaust system is Stainless Steel. I did not need to have the Headers Jet-Hot Coated and have never heard of anybody having the catback system Jet-Hot Coated :lolg: My engine bay does not get over heated and do check it after driving around awhile.

However, I did have a tunnel heat shield installed at the same time of the Header system install. Kind of expensive but even before the Header install I noticed my center console area would get rather warm. Now, with the Headers & tunnel heat shield my center console area is actually cooler than before. Plus, if someone is really worried about the heat or noise they could do the Mike Mercury interior insulation mod... http://mikemercury.home.att.net/sound.htm

I did not mean to flame but you were wrong about the Pro LG/Borla LT Header system not being SS because they are definitely Stainless Steel .

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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 05:50 PM
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SFVetteman,

:thumbs:

:cheers: Cary
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Old Sep 23, 2003 | 12:03 AM
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Has anybody tried pacesetter headers?
I would like to know about these too. I have seen these on Ebay for 200-300 dollars. Does anyone have these?
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Cary, sweet pic :eek: where are the cats?
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Old Sep 23, 2003 | 06:20 PM
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Default Re: do you have Borla shorty headers? (Humy)

Cary, sweet pic :eek: where are the cats?

I have one cat but left her at home. I don't take her with me when I drive up to LGMotorsports.

:eek: Oh, you said cat(s) :lol:

When I had the Pro LG/Borla LT system installed Lou was still working on the design with Random Tech to add the cats. So, my LT system has :nono: cats. Lou now sales & installs cats for this LT system but I have not decided if I want to spend the $$$. Besides, the only residual effect I've noticed is having to clean up the Borla Quad tips more frequently. The sound is :thumbs:

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