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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 04:41 PM
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Default Blackwings - Legal for CA?

Thanks to all who answered my question about the intake filter of choice; it's the Blackwing, hands down.

NEW question: Since Blackwing does not have a C.A.R.B exemption, has anyone experienced trouble with smog checks or GM warranty work as a result of having this unit ???
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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 05:42 PM
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Default Re: Blackwings - Legal for CA? (billmartin)

No because I don't have one, but I'll bet you can expect a problem passing the visual inspection. There would seem to be an easy answer -- just take it off and put the stock box back on for the smog cert.
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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 05:46 PM
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Default Re: Blackwings - Legal for CA? (Bruceatlam)

Strictly out of curiousity, how do they know what parts are stock and what is modded on the visual?

The Blackwing certainly looks perfectly stock, and I doubt most inspectors know what a C5 looks like under the hood. Do they have reference photos?
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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 05:57 PM
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Default Re: Blackwings - Legal for CA? (billmartin)

I don't think an aftermarket airfilter is grounds for SMOG failure.
I passed CA smog with the Blackwing on - never even came up.
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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 06:09 PM
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No problem with an after-market air intake here in Massachusetts. Newer cars aren't even required to go on the dyno. The inspection tech just plugs into the diagnostics port on the car. It checks to make sure all emissions equipment is in place. If it sees what it needs it passes the car. Just had my '01 inspection in October. :chevy I now have a twin-cone air intake in place. I expect NO problem next year when I go in for another inspection.
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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 10:50 PM
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Default Re: Blackwings - Legal for CA? (billmartin)

Passed CA inspection last year with Blackwing installed.

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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 11:59 PM
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Default Re: Blackwings - Legal for CA? (billmartin)

I would spend the extra $150, get the K&N air intake system, and NEVER worry about the smog ***** again. I went through smog hell with my 68 because some smog techs had keener eyes than others. I ended up driving 30 miles out of my way to find a "friendly" smog tech - never again. It's just not worth it to me. Besides, I'll bet the K&N flows at least as well as the Blackwing, if not better.

Good luck!
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Old Dec 6, 2003 | 01:57 AM
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Smog on a "68"?..... ah... in CA 73 and older are not required to have smog certs.... hummmmmmmmmmmmmm :confused: :hat :jester :troll :U :withstupid: :steering: :auto: :skep: :leaving:
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Old Dec 6, 2003 | 03:09 AM
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Default Re: Blackwings - Legal for CA? (AtHomeSoda)

Here is the best part. You don't have to smog for about 4 years when you buy a new car. He he. So there really is NO SMOG if you keep a fresh ride around.

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Old Dec 6, 2003 | 03:11 AM
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All CARB legal parts have a CARB EO# stamped on them.
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Old Dec 6, 2003 | 04:02 AM
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I got flunked as soon as the tech saw an open element filter. I guess it depends on who does your car.
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Default Re: Blackwings - Legal for CA? (AtHomeSoda)

Smog on a "68"?..... ah... in CA 73 and older are not required to have smog certs.... hummmmmmmmmmmmmm :confused: :hat :jester :troll :U :withstupid: :steering: :auto: :skep: :leaving:
When I arrived here (in CA) in 1985, I had to have the 68 smogged, since I was bringing it in from out of state. During this time period, your vehicle had to be more than 20 years old to be smog-exempt. Thus, in 1988, I was home-free. Ahhh, but things changed in the nineties. The new law stated that all vehicles newer than 1965 models HAD to be smogged every two years.

It wasn't until the late nineties that the law changed so that all pre-1974 vehicles were exempt and now, the law requires that vehicles be at least 25 years old (I think) to be exempt.

So for many years in between laws, my 68 was NOT exempt.


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Old Dec 6, 2003 | 11:13 PM
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Default Re: Blackwings - Legal for CA? (billmartin)

Nope u wont pass visual insp
I got a ticket for running a black wing and a straight pipe and had to see a referree because some stupid HUNTINGTON BEACH COP didnt like the color of my VETTE (torch red)
got lucky i paid a 450 $ fine and i was on my way
back to a muffler shop wont post the shops name to put on my test pipe but no black wing it got me in troble in the 1st place. First when the cop poped ma hood saw the WING then look under my car which is 2 inches lowered and saw the STRAGHTS :rant: :rant: :rant:
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