Anyone know much about TORCO? I thought fuel additives don't work? How does it compare to 100 octane unleaded?

 

I use a can in every tankful. This is different then plain octane booster. My computer tuner and I have done ease traces with torco and both seen what it can do. I have made back to back runs with it and without it under the same conditions. The car can hold quite a bit more timing with torco. I've been using it for over a year now with great results.
I was just at the roadcouse this past week and ran my first tank with a Torco 91 mix. I ran my next tank with 100 octane from the track with the same results, other then it cost me more then fifty more for the 100 octane JB


[Modified by jbsblownc5, 12:01 AM 12/9/2003]

 

I use it and like it. Best stuff on the market and doesn't hurt the O2 sensors or cats. My tuner uses it and reccomends it also.


I get it from Joel...

 

they won't work unless you mix them 30% to 70% of 93 octane fuel and that will get expensive.

buy a 5 gallon can of 117 xylene at your local big paint store for $35, a 30-70 mix will give you 100 octane a lot cheaper than buying race gas or crap fuel additives.

 

Have you ever actually tried the torco unleaded accelerator or are you just making an ASSumption?

For 12 bucks a can, I have been running Torco mixed with about 11 or 12 gallons of 91 octain for over a year now. I have made many dyno pulls with and without it as well as doing many Ease scans to record knock timing, etc.
My tuner has tried it and we have made many runs in both our cars recording data with excelant results. This is NOT an off the shelf octane booster!
Please have your facts straight before making off the wall comments....
Respectfully,
JB

 

hi BIGWOOD,

why would u put anything else other than 93-94 octane? i always use sunoco ultra 94 octane. would never put in nothing under 93

 

All we can get here is 91, it would be nice to have options

 

Hey Woody,

You don't mix the Torco at 30% vs 70% fuel by volume...where did you get that info from?

I've run xylene and toulene "cocktails" with success but in the end, it's less costly and much handier to run Torco.

Good luck,

 

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Just got some of the torco in, courtesy of Joel (jbsblownC5), and I have to say there is a sotp difference especially in the upper rpm range. Many on here have dynoed much higher with increased octane. Torco says it's safe to use and has proven to be safe for those using it longer than myself. It has ratio instructions on the can as to what octane you want to run and will turn a 20 gal tank of 93 into just over 100. 6 cans to a case. 6 tanks of 100 octane would be roughly 80$/tank. A case of torco shipped clear across the country was only $87!!! Do the math for flexibility and cost effectiveness!!!

 

Is this the "Wizard" octane boost on the Torco website? Thanks

 

I have not yet tried Torco and I am curious as to the mixture needed for raisng Ca puke premium (91 octane) to 95 or better octane levels. If it takes 2 cans of Torco (at $12+ a can) $24.00 + 14x 1.99 for puke premium ($27.86) =$51.86 per tank. Conversely, 2 gallons of Xylene at Home Depot ($9.97 each) is $19.94 + 13 gallons of puke premium at 1.99 (less gas needed, but now $24.87) =$44.81 per tank.

If one can of Torco does the job, then , my friends we have found sliced bread.





[Modified by 2ndVette, 11:26 AM 12/10/2003]

 

I have bought if from Joel and used it. It works just as Joel says. If it didnt, Joel would not be using it on his car and neither would I.

Ching... Ching....

VR :cheers:

 

Remember that this stuff is already measured with a conversion table of how much torco and how much 93 is needed to make the mixture you want and would be more accurate than the home depot method.

 

the question remains how many cans of Torco to raise base 91 octane premium to greater than 95+ . Thanks

 

Here are the mixing instructions on the 32 oz can...

Treatment ratio with 32oz of Accelerator

97 minimum octane race fuel treat 20 gallons of 93 octane minimum gasoline
104 " " " " " 10 " " " " " "
107 " " " " " 5 " " " " " "

Hope that helps you out... :smash:

VR :cheers:

 

thanks Steve. If you are not getting any detonation with your SC while using ONE can, then that's enough testimony for me...

 

Don't know what's in TORCO, but IMHO, Toluene is a very safe choice because it is one of the main octane boosters used by oil companies in producing ordinary gasoline of all grades. Thus if toluene is indeed harmful to your engine as feared, your engine would have disintegrated long, long ago since ordinary pump gasoline can contain as much as 50% aromatic hydrocarbons.

Toluene is a pure hydrocarbon (C7H8). i.e. it contains only hydrogen and carbon atoms. It belongs to a particular category of hydrocarbons called aromatic hydrocarbons. Complete combustion of toluene yields CO2 and H2O. This fact ensures that the entire emission control system such as the catalyst and oxygen sensor of your car is unaffected. There are no metallic compounds (lead, magnesium etc), no nitro compounds and no oxygen atoms in toluene. It is made up of exactly the same ingredients as ordinary gasoline. In fact it is one of the main ingredients of gasoline.

It's hard to find toluene, at least in my region. It's abused as an inhalant, and it's apparently used by some to make methamphetamine, and a lot of stores just don't carry it -- they don't want drug abusers and manufacturers' business.

You can find Xylene, which is very similar chemically. Toluene is methyl benzene, Xylene is di-methyl benzene. Twice the methyl, twice the fun. :)

Xylene is available at Home Depot in my area, for around $8 a gallon.

Xylene is virtually interchangeable with toluene as an octane booster. In either case, I wouldn't exceed a 1:3 ratio of toluene/xylene to gasoline, even though some will go as high as a 1:2 ratio. The reason is that toluene/xylene doesn't have any lubricants, detergents, or any of the other beneficial gasoline additives.

As far as the "warnings" about xylene's (or toluene's) toxicity, yes, it's toxic and can be dangerous if you're not careful. But it's almost certainly safer than gasoline in almost every way that matters -- less toxic, higher flashpoint (less likely to explode). Toluene and xylene break down into "less harmful" chemicals in sunlight. If you treat toluene/xylene with the respect that you treat gasoline, you'll have no problems.

One last thing -- during the turbo era of Formula 1 in the 1980s, most of the F-1 cars were running a fuel which was about 84% toluene. And they were extracting close to 1500 hp out of a 1.5 liter engine. Obviously, you won't see those results yourself, but give it a try.

Just remember, octane does nothing to improve performance in and of itself. All it does is measure the ability of the fuel to resist detonation. And there is some evidence that it inhibits flame propagation (flame speed) across the combustion chamber and, thus, fuel with too high an octane rating may actually reduce engine performance.

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So, would it be better to dyno tune on these additives OR can you simply add this stuff with great benefits even though the motor wasn't tuned on it? :lurk:

 

One can of torco for 12 bucks mixed with a full tank of 91 octane will easily put you in the 95+++ range!!
JB