best roll-on setup????
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best roll-on setup????
Did a search on roll-on setups and and got nothing.
What would be the best way to setup a good roll-on poweradder???? Nitrous, h/c, s/c??????
Please no TT, 427 TT, or King Kongs, obviously they kick butt. :thumbs:
What would be the best way to setup a good roll-on poweradder???? Nitrous, h/c, s/c??????
Please no TT, 427 TT, or King Kongs, obviously they kick butt. :thumbs:
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Re: best roll-on setup???? (4N EATER)
u mean racing form a roll?
Depends on what speeds you want to race from/to. Also, once you cross the 400rwhp mark, street tires will not handle the power. You will be wanting to look at drag radials etc.
Depends on what speeds you want to race from/to. Also, once you cross the 400rwhp mark, street tires will not handle the power. You will be wanting to look at drag radials etc.
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Re: best roll-on setup???? (kumar75150)
yeah, going from about a 40-50mph roll-on. Yeah, from other posts ive read the F1's arent gonna cut it once big poweradders are on. My bad, shouldve been a little more specific.
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Re: best roll-on setup???? (4N EATER)
yeah, going from about a 40-50mph roll-on. Yeah, from other posts ive read the F1's arent gonna cut it once big poweradders are on. My bad, shouldve been a little more specific.
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Re: best roll-on setup???? (KillerVette99)
yeah, im more on a "normal man's budget"....no 427 TT's.....I was thinking 7,000 tops...basically between ATI, H/C, or nitrous......I do plan to forge up and go big later.
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yeah, im more on a "normal man's budget"....no 427 TT's.....I was thinking 7,000 tops...basically between ATI, H/C, or nitrous......I do plan to forge up and go big later.
If you want to go the sleeper approach and make some money off people on the streets, I would go with a nice h/c combo, do all the bolt ons, and hide a 150 shot wet kit. If anyone asks, just say you have a few little bolt ons and a cam. That won't sound like a whole lot, but little do they know! If you don't care if people know its fast as hell, go with a h/c combo and supercharge it! Either way, you'll be making some serious hp. You'll be crazy from a roll. I run a 100 shot for now, and race from 40 rolls all the time. There's not much around that will be able to touch you. I personally love racing from a roll because I don't have to worry about slicks, and breaking stuff in the rear from launching it hard. Don't get me wrong, I race from a stop, but people don't realize that it's difficult to stop when street racing. The roll is more practical. Tell me some info on your vette. Year, model, auto or 6spd, current mods?
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Re: best roll-on setup???? (KillerVette99)
KillerVette99...thanks for the interest and ideas. It's a black 01' Z06. Performance mods are hurst shifter, "Bullet" exaust, and i've got a vararam waiting to go on. If i dont do headers i am DEF. going to gut the dang pupcats.
Like the idea of "mild" h/c...bout 420 rwhp and a shot of nitrous on top. Saw Man o' War has a setup and I reallyyyy it, two 15 pound bottles, cause people say the only PITA about nitrous is having to refill :lol: . I thought 150 was too much for a stock bottom end. Besides, i THOUGHT i heard someone say a 100 shot of TNT gave them 100rwhp and something like 200 rwtq????
[Modified by 4N EATER, 6:44 AM 4/13/2004]
Like the idea of "mild" h/c...bout 420 rwhp and a shot of nitrous on top. Saw Man o' War has a setup and I reallyyyy it, two 15 pound bottles, cause people say the only PITA about nitrous is having to refill :lol: . I thought 150 was too much for a stock bottom end. Besides, i THOUGHT i heard someone say a 100 shot of TNT gave them 100rwhp and something like 200 rwtq????
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Re: best roll-on setup???? (kumar75150)
I'm surprised no votes for the ATI.....nitrous better from a roll cause u dont have to worry about hooking as much as nitrous from a stop?????
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Re: best roll-on setup???? (4N EATER)
Blake...........what is your $$$ budget?
You coming looking for me :D
You coming looking for me :D
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Re: best roll-on setup???? (4N EATER)
These guys want the ultimate in sleeper N20 setups. Check this out! It fits under the stock coil covers. You hide the bottle in the rear center compartment:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=795646
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=795646
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Re: best roll-on setup???? (ALLTHROTTLE&NOBOTTLE)
AllThrottle&Nobottle.....range is around $7,000. Not sure what u mean...."You coming looking for me". BTW, where are u in VA, and i like your setup. If i understand correctly, a "stroker" is when u just change the crank out to get a longer stroke- i.e. more displacement???? How does that cost compare to h/c, and if u change cranks do u have to change heads and cam?????
LuvmyC5...saw that thread the other day, i concur....very :thumbs:
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LuvmyC5...saw that thread the other day, i concur....very :thumbs:
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Re: best roll-on setup???? (4N EATER)
AllThrottle&Nobottle.....range is around $7,000. Not sure what u mean...."You coming looking for me". BTW, where are u in VA, and i like your setup. If i understand correctly, a "stroker" is when u just change the crank out to get a longer stroke- i.e. more displacement???? How does that cost compare to h/c, and if u change cranks do u have to change heads and cam?????day, i concur....very :thumbs:
In Yorktown..within smelling distance of the brewery :yesnod:
As for the $$$. I would stay NA.
You installing or want a turn key?
Stroker is increased stroke and it can be with/w/o a stock bore.
Guys are putting on a good set of heads, cam, 1/ 7/8 headers with 3" exhaust & tuning for your price range.......here is a Cartek package as an example:
LS-6 - STAGE 2-X HEADS
451 RWHP, 410 RWTQ NORMALLY ASPIRATED WITH "X" CAM
ON A STOCK C.I.D. 346 LS1 AND OTHER MODS.
Hot tank and inspect heads
Velocity mapped runner
Fully ported intake and exhaust runner
polished chamber
Competition 3 angle valve job
Resurface heads to desired compression
Stainless steel undercut valves 2.02 int. / 1.57 exh.
Viton valve seals
Proprietary hi performance dual valve springs for up to .630" lift
Titanium retainers
Set all valve spring pressures and heights
Flow test
Fully assembled cylinder head
Ready to bolt on / core is required
$2,950
Bottom line how much RWHP/TQ do you want will determine cam/heads or a combo with a stroke kit to make a nice little 382 ish cid.
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Re: best roll-on setup???? (ALLTHROTTLE&NOBOTTLE)
You really can't decide what to do until you determine what hp levels your aiming for. I really like my setup, intake, exhaust, and the shot. I can go off the line, or a 1st gear roll pretty easily, then hit the nitrous once in second and I'm gone! It works well. If you go with nitrous you will be happy, but in my opinion, once you get nitrous, you will want to start building the motor a little so its super fast off the bottle. Thats whats happening to me. I'm going for a cam soon.
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Re: best roll-on setup???? (ALLTHROTTLE&NOBOTTLE)
cool. I got to come up and see your setup when im home on leave this summer. I might be able to install, somewhat mechanically inclined. I saw the Cartek Package, thought about it.
Would like to go about 500rwhp on stock bottom...but want system to be easily upgradeable to 600-650rwhp (which means forged, and then might as well get forged 382 crank). THEN NO MORE. dont want to have to replace everything in the car.
Would like to go about 500rwhp on stock bottom...but want system to be easily upgradeable to 600-650rwhp (which means forged, and then might as well get forged 382 crank). THEN NO MORE. dont want to have to replace everything in the car.
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Re: best roll-on setup???? (4N EATER)
cool. I got to come up and see your setup when im home on leave this summer. I might be able to install, somewhat mechanically inclined. I saw the Cartek Package, thought about it.
Would like to go about 500rwhp on stock bottom...but want system to be easily upgradeable to 600-650rwhp (which means forged, and then might as well get forged 382 crank). THEN NO MORE. dont want to have to replace everything in the car.
Would like to go about 500rwhp on stock bottom...but want system to be easily upgradeable to 600-650rwhp (which means forged, and then might as well get forged 382 crank). THEN NO MORE. dont want to have to replace everything in the car.
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Re: best roll-on setup???? (4N EATER)
cool. I got to come up and see your setup when im home on leave this summer. I might be able to install, somewhat mechanically inclined. I saw the Cartek Package, thought about it.
Would like to go about 500rwhp on stock bottom...but want system to be easily upgradeable to 600-650rwhp (which means forged, and then might as well get forged 382 crank). THEN NO MORE. dont want to have to replace everything in the car.
Would like to go about 500rwhp on stock bottom...but want system to be easily upgradeable to 600-650rwhp (which means forged, and then might as well get forged 382 crank). THEN NO MORE. dont want to have to replace everything in the car.
Right now you can run 10's with a stock short block and heads, cam, gear tires and tuning...........idling at 900+. If this is your play car then I would think your good to go. You can run 10's with 450 at the wheels, but to go above reliably and make it an EDD IMHO you need a stroker or power adder. I would think a nice little stock bore stroker with a healthy head/cam package tuned would be near 500 now a days. My mild cammed 415 is over 500 at the wheels and has an iron 6.0 block so this motor should stay together for a while.
You may be able to build a stroker yourself today in that price range...........buy a good forged short block, heads & use a ported LS6 intake & TB and have a nice day :reddevil
p.s, tuning can be done in 2 1/2 hours from me in NC (I am told) if ya don't get a turn key job. Be glad to help you spend you’re $$$ :lol:
As for traction at 50mph..............no problem for me, I run the 345/30/18 bfg drs on the street. And Ed can tub yours locally to fit some nice meat under it.
After all, all the power in the world is useless unless you can hook it up :cheers:
