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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 03:47 PM
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How do you remove it? Hoping to save a few pounds.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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I doubt that a few pounds will be worth screwing up the system. I wonder how you would "program" to compensate?
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 04:37 PM
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Plus it could be PITA job as I know the plumbing ends up between the rear of the engine and the firewall with little or no clearance.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by leaftye
How do you remove it? Hoping to save a few pounds.
The plumbing is 'fairly' accessible, but will require some work to get at and remove. You will need block off plates for the headers and the codes can be disabled via tuning. At most you will be saving about 8 pounds; the air pump and tubes.

If you want to save weight, the A/C will lighten you the front end by about 84 pounds

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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by carpe dm
I doubt that a few pounds will be worth screwing up the system. I wonder how you would "program" to compensate?
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You will fail EPA readiness status if that matters to you even if you try to turn off the codes. What's the smog laws like in NM? I assume they do OBDII? :
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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BHP, carpe dm,
I have HPTuners, so if I can disable the codes, I'm thinking I'll still pass the OBDII test here. Good thinking though. I know I'd get codes without the tuner program! As long as removing that thing isn't too hard, I can always reinstall the system right before the smog test. I know it may only be 8 pounds, but it's right at the front of the car, and that's where I'd like to cut weight.


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A/C isn't getting removed as the car is a daily driver. Do you know where I could find a set of those exhaust block off plates?
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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i removed all that crap and turned off the code. I also removed tha ir pump and put in blockoff plates. llooks much cleaner and its easier to work on now

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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by leaftye
BHP, carpe dm,
I have HPTuners, so if I can disable the codes, I'm thinking I'll still pass the OBDII test here. Good thinking though. I know I'd get codes without the tuner program! As long as removing that thing isn't too hard, I can always reinstall the system right before the smog test. I know it may only be 8 pounds, but it's right at the front of the car, and that's where I'd like to cut weight.


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A/C isn't getting removed as the car is a daily driver. Do you know where I could find a set of those exhaust block off plates?
You can disable the codes but it will still fail EPA. You will get an air system failed alert. The smog station will see that the pump is gone. If if you put it back on they will see history codes that you cannot erase. Take a look a EFI-Live if you have it to see what I mean.
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why cant you remove history codes? The airpump is all but hidden unless you have a flashlight and a lift. I know quite a few people w/o emissions stuff that have passed using ls1 edit.

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Originally Posted by TT_Vert
why cant you remove history codes? The airpump is all but hidden unless you have a flashlight and a lift. I know quite a few people w/o emissions stuff that have passed using ls1 edit.

Dave
Erase the history and turn off the codes.

Block off the Air tubes to the headers - you can get gaskets and plates here-> http://www.paceparts.com/index.asp?P...D&ProdID=24672 .

I did it and I have zero history or codes.
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by carpe dm
I doubt that a few pounds will be worth screwing up the system. I wonder how you would "program" to compensate?
People spend several hundred dollars for just a few horsepower. Whats the difference?
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TT_Vert
why cant you remove history codes? The airpump is all but hidden unless you have a flashlight and a lift. I know quite a few people w/o emissions stuff that have passed using ls1 edit.

Dave
I am referring to the "EPA GM.WUEMPASS PID" as an example. I have not been able to clear it. The smog station can tell if you have tampered with the "system" especially of recent date.
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