Bedding & Seasoning...Baer!
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Bedding & Seasoning...Baer!
I will be getting new Baer Erradaspeeds and Hawk Pads.
I just went on the Baer site and learned there is a very complicated, specific and long proceedure to "season" the new rotors and embed the new pads.
http://www.baer.com/Support/TechTips.aspx?TechTipID=4
http://www.baer.com/Support/TechTips.aspx?TechTipID=5
Please someone tell me all this is not necessary. There must be a simple easy way to get 95% performance and wear out of these rotors and pads
Thanks for any help
I just went on the Baer site and learned there is a very complicated, specific and long proceedure to "season" the new rotors and embed the new pads.
http://www.baer.com/Support/TechTips.aspx?TechTipID=4
http://www.baer.com/Support/TechTips.aspx?TechTipID=5
Please someone tell me all this is not necessary. There must be a simple easy way to get 95% performance and wear out of these rotors and pads
Thanks for any help
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Macinamouth,
By all means, you should follow the steps carefully. If you don't properly break in your brakes, you may have problems down the road.
If you have any further questions, feel free to email us at: Sales@TheLAPD.com
Thanks!
Shawn
By all means, you should follow the steps carefully. If you don't properly break in your brakes, you may have problems down the road.
If you have any further questions, feel free to email us at: Sales@TheLAPD.com
Thanks!
Shawn
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Originally Posted by L.A.P.D.
Macinamouth,
By all means, you should follow the steps carefully. If you don't properly break in your brakes, you may have problems down the road.
Shawn
By all means, you should follow the steps carefully. If you don't properly break in your brakes, you may have problems down the road.
Shawn
Seriously, I assume you know or have read the breakin steps......they are talking like 5-6 days light braking...followed by 2 days of specific braking protocals including cooling off periods for the rotors. And then you get to do another 25 steps to embed the brakes. Come on.....people actually do that whole protocall spelled out on the links in my post??
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St. Jude Donor '03-'05
I did. I have the Eradispeeds with GM pads and went through the whole thing. If you don't bed the pads and season the rotors, they will most likely fail prematurely.
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That is a normal seasoning process.
4 to 5 40 to 5 mph stops
4 to 5 80 to 5 mph stops
4 to 5 110 to 5 mph stops
Do all your stopping in straight lines, no corners
When putting on your brakes to season them, just dont gentally step on the brake peddle but STOMP ON THAT PEDDLE AS HARD AS YOU CAN AND HOLD DOWN . See if you could put that corvette on its nose. Your abs may kick in for a moment and that is good.
It is nice to do this once in a while to see how well your corvette can really stop. Hopefully you will never really have to experience this kind of stopping in normal driving. But if you do, you are prepared.
Drive the car for 15 to 20 min to cool the rotors and put the car away for 24 hours, not over night but 24 hours.
This process helps transfer some pad materal to the rotor and get the rotor seasoned for the heating, expansion and contraction of braking.
4 to 5 40 to 5 mph stops
4 to 5 80 to 5 mph stops
4 to 5 110 to 5 mph stops
Do all your stopping in straight lines, no corners
When putting on your brakes to season them, just dont gentally step on the brake peddle but STOMP ON THAT PEDDLE AS HARD AS YOU CAN AND HOLD DOWN . See if you could put that corvette on its nose. Your abs may kick in for a moment and that is good.
It is nice to do this once in a while to see how well your corvette can really stop. Hopefully you will never really have to experience this kind of stopping in normal driving. But if you do, you are prepared.
Drive the car for 15 to 20 min to cool the rotors and put the car away for 24 hours, not over night but 24 hours.
This process helps transfer some pad materal to the rotor and get the rotor seasoned for the heating, expansion and contraction of braking.
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If you follow the procedure exactly as they outline it, your brake's life will be maximized. It seems like a PITA but it's not that bad in the greater scheme of doing mods.
Another brake site I checked out also mentioned that, after the final high-speed hard-braking session, the rotors should turn a blueish-purplish color. I would have been concerned if I hadn't read that because Baer's site doesn't mention anything about discoloration. After letting them rest another 24 hours and then driving normally for about 50 miles, the rotors returned to their normal color. They've been perfect ever since and perform great.
Another brake site I checked out also mentioned that, after the final high-speed hard-braking session, the rotors should turn a blueish-purplish color. I would have been concerned if I hadn't read that because Baer's site doesn't mention anything about discoloration. After letting them rest another 24 hours and then driving normally for about 50 miles, the rotors returned to their normal color. They've been perfect ever since and perform great.
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Ok...all of you Elite Members with the colored stars 
I will definately heed your cumulative advise
I will read the instructions again...but it seems like there is a seasoning of the rotors first and then embedding the pads. Maybe the separate (one for rotors and another for the pads) instructions don't take into account doing pads/rotors simultaneously .........
Thanks very much...
I will definately heed your cumulative advise
I will read the instructions again...but it seems like there is a seasoning of the rotors first and then embedding the pads. Maybe the separate (one for rotors and another for the pads) instructions don't take into account doing pads/rotors simultaneously .........
Thanks very much...
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They recommend usuing old pads to season the rotors (as long as they aren't trashed) and then bed the pads once the rotors are seasoned. It sounds like a lot of work but you will appreciate it when you are going 140 and stand on the brakes and the car stops in a straight line quickly.
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Originally Posted by Fastguy
They recommend usuing old pads to season the rotors (as long as they aren't trashed) and then bed the pads once the rotors are seasoned. It sounds like a lot of work but you will appreciate it when you are going 140 and stand on the brakes and the car stops in a straight line quickly.
It is very important to follow the seasoning process for these rotors and raise the temp to between 1100 and 1300 degrees to allow the internal pressures to be relieved. It's only a 2-day process. The hardest part is finding a stretch of road where you can perform the progressive stops and then drive at freeway speeds for a while without applying the brakes.Following the outlined process will insure you get the full life out of the rotors. The brakes will still work if you don't do the process, but since the internal pressures were not relieved the rotor(s) could warp or fail prematurly.
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Again..I want to thank you guys for your concern and clearification of this proceedure for me.
I'm pretty sure some of my pads are real low .... 23k miles of agressive driving....I DON'T creep up on the stops. Plus I have to pay for the install. So I will have to pay double the labor if I do the old pad/ new rotor and then the new pad embedding.
SO....since the rotors are a lot more $$$ and will hopefully see many sets of pads in the future....I am surmizing that I should follow the rotor seasoning protocall.....right?!
Thanks so much....
I'm pretty sure some of my pads are real low .... 23k miles of agressive driving....I DON'T creep up on the stops. Plus I have to pay for the install. So I will have to pay double the labor if I do the old pad/ new rotor and then the new pad embedding.
SO....since the rotors are a lot more $$$ and will hopefully see many sets of pads in the future....I am surmizing that I should follow the rotor seasoning protocall.....right?!
Thanks so much....