About WILWOOD Brake system!!!!
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About WILWOOD Brake system!!!!
Hi i'm interested on change the stock braking system of my c5.
So i red all about the willwood system and i really unbelive that the 60 to 0 would be at 89ft!!!!
I remember that in a video of top gear i saw that the mercedes SLR... with the ceramic system can stop in 240ft but from 120 to 0... so i search again and i found that porsche can stop with a 96 to 100 feets from 60 to 0 and this is a really good sytem...
Now i ask to everybody have one the willwood is really good as they say??? ever do you test your system??
Are really the numbers correct??
Do you have also a coil over or other mods to your car???
Thanks
So i red all about the willwood system and i really unbelive that the 60 to 0 would be at 89ft!!!!
I remember that in a video of top gear i saw that the mercedes SLR... with the ceramic system can stop in 240ft but from 120 to 0... so i search again and i found that porsche can stop with a 96 to 100 feets from 60 to 0 and this is a really good sytem...
Now i ask to everybody have one the willwood is really good as they say??? ever do you test your system??
Are really the numbers correct??
Do you have also a coil over or other mods to your car???
Thanks
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Originally Posted by azamolo
Hi i'm interested on change the stock braking system of my c5.
So i red all about the willwood system and i really unbelive that the 60 to 0 would be at 89ft!!!!
So i red all about the willwood system and i really unbelive that the 60 to 0 would be at 89ft!!!!
I remember that in a video of top gear i saw that the mercedes SLR... with the ceramic system can stop in 240ft but from 120 to 0... so i search again and i found that porsche can stop with a 96 to 100 feets from 60 to 0 and this is a really good sytem...
Now i ask to everybody have one the willwood is really good as they say??? ever do you test your system??
Are really the numbers correct??
Are really the numbers correct??
Do you have also a coil over or other mods to your car???
Thanks
Thanks
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Thanks for the answer but did you test the performance???
Like putting the car to 60 miles and stop it.... after measuring the distance???
Someone who had it??
What about the BAER systems???
I really want to pay for a system but this must be the best!!!
Thanks
Like putting the car to 60 miles and stop it.... after measuring the distance???
Someone who had it??
What about the BAER systems???
I really want to pay for a system but this must be the best!!!
Thanks
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60 mph stops?? No but did some 130 mph to 60 mph to take corners - about 3/4 the normal distance of the PBR Corvette brake. Did we do a comparison test and measure each distance?? no might hard to find uless some one wants to go out and spend 10s of thousands of dollars on many different brake systems to do the comparisons. For the best brakes look at many many pictures of what race cars are using.
They are very good brakes. Not in the same leage with Wilwood, Stoptech or AP.
The best for street vette? StopTech hands down then Wilwood not far behind Staight racing bakes then AP would be the one. But at $2500 plus per caliper 
Brembo on the Caddie CTSv
AP Racing
Performance Friction Brakes
AP Racing on the C5Rs
Notice None of these racing brake rotors have holes in them. Slotted or "J" slots to remove any material built up on the brake pads These rotors are also the 1.4 " rotors not the normal 1.25" thick rotors we see on street cars.
Originally Posted by azamolo
What about the BAER systems???
I really want to pay for a system but this must be the best!!!
Thanks
Thanks
Brembo on the Caddie CTSv
AP Racing
Performance Friction Brakes
AP Racing on the C5Rs
Notice None of these racing brake rotors have holes in them. Slotted or "J" slots to remove any material built up on the brake pads These rotors are also the 1.4 " rotors not the normal 1.25" thick rotors we see on street cars.
Last edited by AU N EGL; Nov 7, 2004 at 07:14 AM.
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If I were to get a new big brake system now, I would get the stoptech or the brembo front and rear kit.
VR
PS, those brake systems on the race cars are cool... but really dont help anyone pick out a set of brakes for a street car.
VR
PS, those brake systems on the race cars are cool... but really dont help anyone pick out a set of brakes for a street car.
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Just remember that for street applicaitions, where you don't get much heat into the brake system, your stopping distances will be almost directly related to your tires, not your brakes. If you can lock up all 4 wheels you have enough brakes for the street.
Now, for the track the story changes completely, and you start dealing with how a system works with repeated applications and high heat loads.
HTH, and have a good one,
Mike
Now, for the track the story changes completely, and you start dealing with how a system works with repeated applications and high heat loads.
HTH, and have a good one,
Mike
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Originally Posted by VetteDrmr
Just remember that for street applicaitions, where you don't get much heat into the brake system, your stopping distances will be almost directly related to your tires, not your brakes. If you can lock up all 4 wheels you have enough brakes for the street.
Now, for the track the story changes completely, and you start dealing with how a system works with repeated applications and high heat loads.
HTH, and have a good one,
Mike
Now, for the track the story changes completely, and you start dealing with how a system works with repeated applications and high heat loads.
HTH, and have a good one,
Mike
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Do the following
Motul 600 Brake Fluid
Performance Friction Pads
DRM Brake Ducts
Stainless Steel Lines
Lower the car 1.5"
04 Magnetic shocks
The above should well out-perform your tires.
If you do like that,
Then buy some, "real," Z06 rims and throw some 275/305 NittoRII's on them.
Performance Friction Pads
DRM Brake Ducts
Stainless Steel Lines
Lower the car 1.5"
04 Magnetic shocks
The above should well out-perform your tires.
If you do like that,
Then buy some, "real," Z06 rims and throw some 275/305 NittoRII's on them.
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I had also a porsche 911 my92 and also having the stock tires if i don't be wrong it has the same dimentions of tires but the difference in the braking power is enormous!!!!
I'm ok about the difference between the track use and the city!!! but here in Italy the highways let you have a cruise speed of 120-140mph, when are completly free, but when a truck comes out in your chanel, you must stop your car from the cruise to 60 or 50mph and really making 2 or 3 times you understand the importance of a good brake system, because the stock has problems with sequence of braking.
Anyway my question is not only for a highway performance!! but, in case you drive in a mountain course, in wich every 100feet you must brake!!!
i want a system that have the capacity to support more stoppings without get stressed!!
I watch to the willwood system and i surprise because it has a real good numbers, as i said i see, 28meters from 60 to 0, and it's a big difference between the others sport cars like porsche that can make 32meters or cars like ferraris with brembo's system!!!
It's for this that i wrote asking if someone, in the forum, tested the real efficency of this system like measuring the 60 to 0 braking space
Thanks
I'm ok about the difference between the track use and the city!!! but here in Italy the highways let you have a cruise speed of 120-140mph, when are completly free, but when a truck comes out in your chanel, you must stop your car from the cruise to 60 or 50mph and really making 2 or 3 times you understand the importance of a good brake system, because the stock has problems with sequence of braking.
Anyway my question is not only for a highway performance!! but, in case you drive in a mountain course, in wich every 100feet you must brake!!!
i want a system that have the capacity to support more stoppings without get stressed!!
I watch to the willwood system and i surprise because it has a real good numbers, as i said i see, 28meters from 60 to 0, and it's a big difference between the others sport cars like porsche that can make 32meters or cars like ferraris with brembo's system!!!
It's for this that i wrote asking if someone, in the forum, tested the real efficency of this system like measuring the 60 to 0 braking space
Thanks
Last edited by azamolo; Nov 7, 2004 at 03:19 PM.
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Porsches are much lighter (several hundred pounds) then Corvettes which adds to the braking power of the porsche brakes.
If you are in Italia look at Brembo or AP racing kits. Both are Italian and are excellent braking systems.
If you are in Italia look at Brembo or AP racing kits. Both are Italian and are excellent braking systems.
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No matter what you run the pad is the most important item. If you don't want to be cleaning racing pad dust up then go with a 14" rotor. Then a milder pad. The Wilwood kit from LMG is what I use at the track to race. Works great with a RACE pad but is a 13" rotor. I don't think any street pad will be great if you drive it like a race car. Money no object get some 14" Brembo's or AP's then you may need new 18" rims also. Wilwood makes a ton of calipers so be specific if you ask someone which caliper.
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Originally Posted by DE CHIEL
Porsches are much lighter (several hundred pounds) then Corvettes which adds to the braking power of the porsche brakes.
If you are in Italia look at Brembo or AP racing kits. Both are Italian and are excellent braking systems.
If you are in Italia look at Brembo or AP racing kits. Both are Italian and are excellent braking systems.
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In fact my porsche 911 was 1450kg and the c5 is 1465kg!!!! the same weight!!!
Maybe it's a difference in the suspentions that let the car go down in the front and so you feel less power in braking'??
But the numbers are different so i really think that the brakes are not so good.
One member in the forum said that with brembos the braking power is better than his porsche turbo but do you change all the system??? pads disks and calipers or only pads and disks??
Here in Italy there is no possibility to change the wheels is out of law change the rims from 17 to 18 but before i had a c5 with the brembo sytem and the 14" disks and they fit perfect.
I don't want a racing system in wich i must wait that pads could be warm to brake well!!!
I want a system that have better performance than the stock, and if i must spend money for the changements i want that those would be the best.
The Ap racing don't have in the catalog the disks and pads for the c5 maybe they make only for the competition.
I only want to know if the 6 piston willwood system is so good as they say!!! like 28 meters from 60 to 0!!! this is amaizing!!!!
Thanks
Maybe it's a difference in the suspentions that let the car go down in the front and so you feel less power in braking'??
But the numbers are different so i really think that the brakes are not so good.
One member in the forum said that with brembos the braking power is better than his porsche turbo but do you change all the system??? pads disks and calipers or only pads and disks??
Here in Italy there is no possibility to change the wheels is out of law change the rims from 17 to 18 but before i had a c5 with the brembo sytem and the 14" disks and they fit perfect.
I don't want a racing system in wich i must wait that pads could be warm to brake well!!!
I want a system that have better performance than the stock, and if i must spend money for the changements i want that those would be the best.
The Ap racing don't have in the catalog the disks and pads for the c5 maybe they make only for the competition.
I only want to know if the 6 piston willwood system is so good as they say!!! like 28 meters from 60 to 0!!! this is amaizing!!!!
Thanks
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The first time I road in a C4 with Wilwood brakes and the guys was going into a tight corner very very fast then he stomped on the brakes and the car stopped so fast my stomach kept going 
Wilwood makes calipers that can be fitted to the stock corvette rotors. So no need to change rims, especially with that silly law you have there in Italy about NOT changing wheels
Wilwood also makes some great brake pads too.
DE CHIEL was talking about the Porsche GT3 cup cars (at 2850 lbs or so) she runs with on the track, not the street porsches.
Good luck
Wilwood makes calipers that can be fitted to the stock corvette rotors. So no need to change rims, especially with that silly law you have there in Italy about NOT changing wheels
Wilwood also makes some great brake pads too.
DE CHIEL was talking about the Porsche GT3 cup cars (at 2850 lbs or so) she runs with on the track, not the street porsches.
Good luck
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Originally Posted by HIGHRPM
Not true, depends on which Porsche you are talking about.... a 2004 911 Carrera S weighs 3290lbs, a twin turbo weighs 3480 lbs...considerably more than a 2004 ZO6, at 3130 lbs, and the 2004 C5 coupe at 3246 lbs. Only a Boxster is lighter than a Corvette, but isn't comparable due to its low performance levels. The Brembos on my car stop it faster than the brakes on my turbo Prosche did.