Lets get a cam list going
Le Mans Master
Joined: Dec 2003
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From: Hillsborough NJ
Dyno: 452rwhp/411/rwtq (on 4.10 rear)
Just a review of my mods:
Kooks 1 3/4 headers w/ off road pipes
LG G5X3 cam on a 114 lsa
titanium retainers/titanium pushrods
dual timing chain
underdrive pulley
AFR 205's (CR is ~11.2)
stock Z06 TB/stock Z06 intake
K&N FIPK air intake
stock Z06 Ti exhaust
4.10 rear
Excedy Dual Disc clutch
160 tstat
And a "flat" 13.1 A/F tune across the entire power band
My best et....11.55@122 (1.69-60' on ET Streets)
Car's best et...11.30@123(1.59-60' on ET Streets...thanks robz
)
Just a review of my mods:
Kooks 1 3/4 headers w/ off road pipes
LG G5X3 cam on a 114 lsa
titanium retainers/titanium pushrods
dual timing chain
underdrive pulley
AFR 205's (CR is ~11.2)
stock Z06 TB/stock Z06 intake
K&N FIPK air intake
stock Z06 Ti exhaust
4.10 rear
Excedy Dual Disc clutch
160 tstat
And a "flat" 13.1 A/F tune across the entire power band
My best et....11.55@122 (1.69-60' on ET Streets)
Car's best et...11.30@123(1.59-60' on ET Streets...thanks robz
)
Racer
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 298
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From: San Antonio Texas
Originally Posted by 99 The Hard Way
John- what is the part# on your cam? That's exactly what i'm looking for. Scott
We got the cam from Andy at A&A Corvette Specialties, a vendor here. Call Andy and he can set you up with the same cam we have. He also carries a little "milder" version.... 220/220 .581/.581 114 LSA.
Without any tuning, this cam does make the car shake a little at idle. It would occasionally throw the misfire trouble code because of the cam lope. I drilled a small hole in the TB blade - 5/16" - and it smoothed out the idle some. It still shakes at idle, but no more trouble codes. With some tuning, you don't need to do this and you will get better results than I have right now.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Jun 2004
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From: Edmond Ok
Ok, here's what I think we need... Need some techies or tuners to chip in though.
1. What size cam can you go up to with stock tune?
2. What size cam can you go up to with stock valvetrain?
3. What size cam can you go up to without flycutting pistons?
4. Is there a certain size cam that requires headers/airbox?
As for driveability I think that is probably to subjective. I know alot of people dont have the stomach for the G5x-3 and esp. the T-Rex whereas many people use it for daily driver. Not to mention, I think the tuner plays a VERY LARGE role in how it drives.
P.S. A list like this in performance with 1/8 and 1/4 times would be good to, with everyone listing their mods...
1. What size cam can you go up to with stock tune?
2. What size cam can you go up to with stock valvetrain?
3. What size cam can you go up to without flycutting pistons?
4. Is there a certain size cam that requires headers/airbox?
As for driveability I think that is probably to subjective. I know alot of people dont have the stomach for the G5x-3 and esp. the T-Rex whereas many people use it for daily driver. Not to mention, I think the tuner plays a VERY LARGE role in how it drives.
P.S. A list like this in performance with 1/8 and 1/4 times would be good to, with everyone listing their mods...
Burning Brakes
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,117
Likes: 1
From: Cedar Falls Iowa
Specs:
Here goes.
Cam- 232/236 duration 598/601 lift on a 114 LSA Custom specs
Stage 3 LS6 heads hand ported, polished and blended with 2.02/1.60 valves.
Stock compression 10.5 no milling of the heads and all bolt-ons listed below.
Drivability- Fair to average below 2000rpm (for a heads and cam motor)
Shakes a little at idle, lopes a little as well. (kind of like both of these traits)
Power band- 3000-6800rpm (pulls extremely hard from 3500-6800)
Dyno numbers given during a hot and humid 90+ degree July day. 440 RWHP/ 400 RWTQ. (Horsepower numbers mean nothing if you they only come in during the last 200rpms. Its the area under the curve that gives the greatest performance gains)
Everyone looks at the peak horsepower number but that will not always tell the true story about the performance of the package.
Best results for any head and cam package is for the head and cam too compilment each other and be designed to work with each other. Just my 2 cents!
If was to change my cam specs again I would go with a 112 LSA on mine.
Here goes.
Cam- 232/236 duration 598/601 lift on a 114 LSA Custom specs
Stage 3 LS6 heads hand ported, polished and blended with 2.02/1.60 valves.
Stock compression 10.5 no milling of the heads and all bolt-ons listed below.
Drivability- Fair to average below 2000rpm (for a heads and cam motor)
Shakes a little at idle, lopes a little as well. (kind of like both of these traits)
Power band- 3000-6800rpm (pulls extremely hard from 3500-6800)
Dyno numbers given during a hot and humid 90+ degree July day. 440 RWHP/ 400 RWTQ. (Horsepower numbers mean nothing if you they only come in during the last 200rpms. Its the area under the curve that gives the greatest performance gains)
Everyone looks at the peak horsepower number but that will not always tell the true story about the performance of the package.
Best results for any head and cam package is for the head and cam too compilment each other and be designed to work with each other. Just my 2 cents!
If was to change my cam specs again I would go with a 112 LSA on mine.
Instructor
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 154
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From: Kansas City Kansas
Originally Posted by robz
Track results at this years Z06Fest
12.4et @ 122 trap speed
-No traction in 1st, 2nd, and about half way through third
-No driver (that be me too)
Anticipate that drag radials, good driver on good track could make 10.8-11.2, at 125-130 trap.
That's assuming alot,IMHO.
Thanks for the write up!
12.4et @ 122 trap speed
-No traction in 1st, 2nd, and about half way through third
-No driver (that be me too)
Anticipate that drag radials, good driver on good track could make 10.8-11.2, at 125-130 trap.
That's assuming alot,IMHO.
Thanks for the write up!
I agree that the 10's might be a stretch. I'll have to see if I can't get someone who knows what they are doing to make a pass or two and see what she is really capable of. That will give me something to shoot for.
Steve
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Burning Brakes
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,117
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From: Cedar Falls Iowa
Hey KCZ,
I heard your car at the funfest this year. That cam is just bad A$$ sounding. If I was to build a stroker that would be the specs I would put in it. What was the clearance at the pistons with it? Is there any dead spots in the RPM?
P.S. My buddy and I thought it was a big block when you went by with all that lope. Do you have any sound clips you could post?
I heard your car at the funfest this year. That cam is just bad A$$ sounding. If I was to build a stroker that would be the specs I would put in it. What was the clearance at the pistons with it? Is there any dead spots in the RPM?
P.S. My buddy and I thought it was a big block when you went by with all that lope. Do you have any sound clips you could post?
Le Mans Master
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 8,308
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From: NJ
Originally Posted by KCZ
Robz,
I agree that the 10's might be a stretch. I'll have to see if I can't get someone who knows what they are doing to make a pass or two and see what she is really capable of. That will give me something to shoot for.
Steve
I agree that the 10's might be a stretch. I'll have to see if I can't get someone who knows what they are doing to make a pass or two and see what she is really capable of. That will give me something to shoot for.
Steve
Pro
Joined: Jun 2004
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From: Louisiana
What we need is something like this built into the website...
http://www.blackcamaro.com/headscam/index.php
But better looking.
We need a web-form that will allow folks to input their combo on all the possible dimensions (similar to what was done in the sheet above).
The output should be in the form a spreadsheet. That sheet should be searchable, filterable, and sortable.
Each contribution should be accompanied by dyno numbers and/or track times. Without the numbers it's just a list of what folks are using, and not how the combination is working for them. Of course, being able to browse popular selection may have its uses too.
Each contribution should have a notes section so the contributor can describe things like driveability, maintenance notes, etc.
How would the vendors feel about us providing a list like this? Would we be able to tag each item listed with the vendor or "brand"? Or would we just use a list of specifications and let folks determine the brand of their own choosing?
Just some ideas. I've wanted to put something like this together but don't have the coding/PHP skills to do it.
Cheers
http://www.blackcamaro.com/headscam/index.php
But better looking.
We need a web-form that will allow folks to input their combo on all the possible dimensions (similar to what was done in the sheet above).
The output should be in the form a spreadsheet. That sheet should be searchable, filterable, and sortable.
Each contribution should be accompanied by dyno numbers and/or track times. Without the numbers it's just a list of what folks are using, and not how the combination is working for them. Of course, being able to browse popular selection may have its uses too.
Each contribution should have a notes section so the contributor can describe things like driveability, maintenance notes, etc.
How would the vendors feel about us providing a list like this? Would we be able to tag each item listed with the vendor or "brand"? Or would we just use a list of specifications and let folks determine the brand of their own choosing?
Just some ideas. I've wanted to put something like this together but don't have the coding/PHP skills to do it.
Cheers
Le Mans Master
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 7,506
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From: Hillsborough NJ
Originally Posted by SmokeyTirez
What we need is something like this built into the website...
http://www.blackcamaro.com/headscam/index.php
But better looking.
We need a web-form that will allow folks to input their combo on all the possible dimensions (similar to what was done in the sheet above).
The output should be in the form a spreadsheet. That sheet should be searchable, filterable, and sortable.
Each contribution should be accompanied by dyno numbers and/or track times. Without the numbers it's just a list of what folks are using, and not how the combination is working for them. Of course, being able to browse popular selection may have its uses too.
Each contribution should have a notes section so the contributor can describe things like driveability, maintenance notes, etc.
How would the vendors feel about us providing a list like this? Would we be able to tag each item listed with the vendor or "brand"? Or would we just use a list of specifications and let folks determine the brand of their own choosing?
Just some ideas. I've wanted to put something like this together but don't have the coding/PHP skills to do it.
Cheers
http://www.blackcamaro.com/headscam/index.php
But better looking.
We need a web-form that will allow folks to input their combo on all the possible dimensions (similar to what was done in the sheet above).
The output should be in the form a spreadsheet. That sheet should be searchable, filterable, and sortable.
Each contribution should be accompanied by dyno numbers and/or track times. Without the numbers it's just a list of what folks are using, and not how the combination is working for them. Of course, being able to browse popular selection may have its uses too.
Each contribution should have a notes section so the contributor can describe things like driveability, maintenance notes, etc.
How would the vendors feel about us providing a list like this? Would we be able to tag each item listed with the vendor or "brand"? Or would we just use a list of specifications and let folks determine the brand of their own choosing?
Just some ideas. I've wanted to put something like this together but don't have the coding/PHP skills to do it.
Cheers
Drifting
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,253
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From: Chapel Hill NC
My '00 Coupe is used primarily for driving on track. Sessions are 20-30 min and there are 6-8 during an event. I wanted a small-medium sized cam that wouldn't beat the heck out of my valvetrain so I installed a Comp 222/224 .566 .568 112 w/ XE lobes, Comp 918 springs and ti retainers a week ago. Following the Edit tune it dynoed 377rwhp and 368rwtq. Prior to the cam it was 343/343.
Instructor
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 109
Likes: 1
From: Meford MA
Originally Posted by SmokeyTirez
What we need is something like this built into the website...
http://www.blackcamaro.com/headscam/index.php
But better looking.
We need a web-form that will allow folks to input their combo on all the possible dimensions (similar to what was done in the sheet above).
The output should be in the form a spreadsheet. That sheet should be searchable, filterable, and sortable.
Each contribution should be accompanied by dyno numbers and/or track times. Without the numbers it's just a list of what folks are using, and not how the combination is working for them. Of course, being able to browse popular selection may have its uses too.
Each contribution should have a notes section so the contributor can describe things like driveability, maintenance notes, etc.
How would the vendors feel about us providing a list like this? Would we be able to tag each item listed with the vendor or "brand"? Or would we just use a list of specifications and let folks determine the brand of their own choosing?
Just some ideas. I've wanted to put something like this together but don't have the coding/PHP skills to do it.
Cheers
http://www.blackcamaro.com/headscam/index.php
But better looking.
We need a web-form that will allow folks to input their combo on all the possible dimensions (similar to what was done in the sheet above).
The output should be in the form a spreadsheet. That sheet should be searchable, filterable, and sortable.
Each contribution should be accompanied by dyno numbers and/or track times. Without the numbers it's just a list of what folks are using, and not how the combination is working for them. Of course, being able to browse popular selection may have its uses too.
Each contribution should have a notes section so the contributor can describe things like driveability, maintenance notes, etc.
How would the vendors feel about us providing a list like this? Would we be able to tag each item listed with the vendor or "brand"? Or would we just use a list of specifications and let folks determine the brand of their own choosing?
Just some ideas. I've wanted to put something like this together but don't have the coding/PHP skills to do it.
Cheers
It is, I ran out of time to work on it, the registry is a bit better though.
The hardest thing I found is there are a lot of things that are applicable that need to fit into that table, its tough formatting it all.
-Dave
Pro
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From: Louisiana
By no means. I just meant we'd want to make it fit within the theme of this site.
It is good work. I remember there was another mods database elsewhere, perhaps on ls1.com or ls1tech.com? Similar format. I agree that there are lots of things to capture, but I think that most folks would be happy capturing the basic bolt-on and power-adder setup to show how the different combos. Worked out.
It is good work. I remember there was another mods database elsewhere, perhaps on ls1.com or ls1tech.com? Similar format. I agree that there are lots of things to capture, but I think that most folks would be happy capturing the basic bolt-on and power-adder setup to show how the different combos. Worked out.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,131
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From: LAS VEGAS NV
cam
k&n cone w/ power duct,cupler,maf ends
ported bpp throttle body
ls6 intake
pp stge 2 ls1 heads milled .030
tsp 224r cam @112(224/224) ls1 edit tuned by cmotorsports
long tubes, off road x-pipe,straight pipes
ss3200 tq converter, 3:42 gears
POWER: 398rwhp/385tq; pulls like a freight train from 3-6k rpms
SOUND:turns heads. you can here this car from a mile away,very, very mean.(off shore power boat)
DRIVABILITY:good, never any problems. idles @900 rpms
1/4 MILE: on 18" bfg drags car went 12.09 @115.(2200ft) i would hope that with cooler weather, et streets, pulley, larger injectors, 160 deg t-stat will get me an 11.8 or 11.9
ported bpp throttle body
ls6 intake
pp stge 2 ls1 heads milled .030
tsp 224r cam @112(224/224) ls1 edit tuned by cmotorsports
long tubes, off road x-pipe,straight pipes
ss3200 tq converter, 3:42 gears
POWER: 398rwhp/385tq; pulls like a freight train from 3-6k rpms
SOUND:turns heads. you can here this car from a mile away,very, very mean.(off shore power boat)
DRIVABILITY:good, never any problems. idles @900 rpms
1/4 MILE: on 18" bfg drags car went 12.09 @115.(2200ft) i would hope that with cooler weather, et streets, pulley, larger injectors, 160 deg t-stat will get me an 11.8 or 11.9
