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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 05:38 AM
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I have a C5 (1998) corvette with some modifications (Z06 intake manifold, ram air vortex, MAF, Magnaflow exhaust, 160 Thermostat, Hypertech III, etc.) . When I was driving on the German highway (there is no speedlimit) at about 290km/h (close to max) the engine oil temperature rose to about 119C (=246Fahrenheit). As soon as the temp rose to that I level I reduced the speed to about 220km/h in order to cool down. So I don't know whether the temp would have risen even further if I stayed at 290km/h. Now I wonder whether I should get a TPIS oil cooler kit from west coast corvette. What are your recommendations?
Has any of you installed such an oil cooler? Any pictures, instructions?

Thanks a lot for your help.

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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 07:00 AM
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We normally dont put oil coolers on corvettes unless you are seeing constaint temps above 260 F degrees. Even though the oil and engine can take those temps for short periods, 260 F seems to be the magic number.

The draw back of an oil cooler is for street and highway ( autobaun ) driving and not getting the oil hot enough. Remeber an oil cooler also keeps the block cooler as well.

I have pics of my oil and trans coolers in my sig links
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 08:06 AM
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You may find that the oil cooler will drop your oil pressure. This cooler may require a stronger oil pump $$$.
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
We normally dont put oil coolers on corvettes unless you are seeing constaint temps above 260 F degrees. Even though the oil and engine can take those temps for short periods, 260 F seems to be the magic number.

The draw back of an oil cooler is for street and highway ( autobaun ) driving and not getting the oil hot enough. Remeber an oil cooler also keeps the block cooler as well.

I have pics of my oil and trans coolers in my sig links

IMHO that is why you have a thermostat inline with the oil cooler.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 01:23 AM
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With the oil temps you are seeing I wouldn't worry. I have an aftermarket radiator with a built in engine oil cooler in my car. On the track in half hour sessions at WOT or close to WOT I am happy to see the oil temp in the 240 range. Before the cooler I typically saw temps in the 295 to 310 range.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 01:39 AM
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Doens't sound so bad.
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I hit that # in daily driving. Start worrying when you go over 300F a lot.

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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
With the oil temps you are seeing I wouldn't worry. I have an aftermarket radiator with a built in engine oil cooler in my car. On the track in half hour sessions at WOT or close to WOT I am happy to see the oil temp in the 240 range. Before the cooler I typically saw temps in the 295 to 310 range.
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Originally Posted by Hib Halverson
Any 5W-30 engine oil, including the synthetic in C5s, uses chemical additives, called "viscosity-index (VI) improvers", to widen its viscosity range enough to make it a 5W-30. VI improvers contribute little to lubrication and can make a "multi-vis" oil less effective at high temperatures than an oil without them. This can become a problem when the oil is under high shear loads at temperatures above 225F. It becomes a potentially damaging problem when oil temp. approaches 300¡F. If your oil temperature in the pan is 250F or above, bet that oil temp in bearings is approaching 300F . Near the piston ring lands and the upper sections of the cylinder walls, it is that or above.
Source: http://www.idavette.net/hib/C5diy/c5diy1.htm
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I talked to the GM engineer who designed the cooling system for the C5/C6 and CTS and he indicated that 290F is not a problem. IF yo start seeing temps over 300 you need a cooler.
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Dear all

Thank you very much for sharing your experience with me.

Best,
Andreas
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