C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

anyone using GM Synchromesh??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 30, 2004 | 10:28 PM
  #21  
Cruncher's Avatar
Cruncher
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,202
Likes: 5
Default

If the use of GM Synchromsesh voids the warranty, how is that GM paid for the fluid and labor when my fluid was changed. The OEM fluid was slightly brown, not red as it should be. As to your comment on Subdriver's deisre to "help and inform"...ever notice how he is always, & I mean always, is informing us on how great Amway is???
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2004 | 01:45 PM
  #22  
C66 Racing's Avatar
C66 Racing
Premium Supporting Vendor
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 5,364
Likes: 38
From: King George VA
Default

Originally Posted by Cruncher
Then why does GM have the stuff? Before I switched to Synchromesh, I did a search of it. Synchromesh was created by Pennzoil to solve specific problems relative to Tremec transmissions, specifically for GM. My fluid was changed under warranty. GM paid for fluid and the labor. The Sychromesh costs about $10/qt. You are more than a little biased: if Amsoil has it, you'll sell it, no matter what it is. Does Amsoil make any of their products? I am sure that ExxonMobil (i.e. Mobil1) spends more money in one day on research and testing than Amsoil has spent in the last 5 years. Mobil developed the specs for their filter; Amsoil only rebranded someone else's filter. The owner's manual calls for a PF46/44 filter, not an Amsoil filter......but I am sure that you use the rebranded filter, even though it is a different specification than a PF46/44. By the way, GM Synchromesh does not meet the Dexron III requirement.
Cruncher,
I am very sorry you feel this way about my posting. I did not intend to be purposely contradictory with you for the benefit of selling some AMSOIL. The vast majority of my posts are meant to share the knowledge and experience I have gained on the track with others. I am normally very careful about what I recommend and try to comment very specifically when my recommendations could cause warranty concerns. Do I slip in a reference to AMSOIL when I can? Sure. I feel it is a good product, the ones I recommend do meet warranty requirements (unless otherwise noted), it is American made, and the few bucks I make from it help offset (in a very small way) the enormous expenses of my racing team.

In this case, I honestly feel that it should be mentioned to those reading this thread that the GM Synchromesh does not meet the requirements leavied by GM for the Corvette transmission, especially since the original poster specifically addressed that concern. If they chose to use the GM Synchromesh knowing that it doesn't meet DEXRON III requirements, fine. At least they made an informed decision.

Since you obviously think my opinion is overly biased, I asked Chevy technical assistance about this lubricant yesterday and here is their official response. Take it for what it is worth.

"The type of transmission fluid that should be used in your 2002 Corvette is Dexron III. It is highly recommended not to use the GM Synchromesh fluid. It anything was to happen it is highly possible that your warranty could be voided.
Sincerely,

Customer Relationship Manager
Chevrolet Customer Assistance Center"

As to why your dealer would use this, you'll have to ask them. My personal opinion is that your dealer is not GM or Chevrolet, it is an independent owned business.


P.S. AMSOIL does buy its PAO base stock for its synthetic lubricants, but it blends in the additives at their plant in Wisconsin. AMSOIL filters are made by the same manufacturer as Hastings, and in fact AMSOIL does carry and sell Hastings filters, but the AMSOIL SDF filters are not merely rebadged Hastings filters. The AMSOIL SDF filters are made to AMSOIL's specific technical specifications using a special Cellulose, Synthetic and Glass Blend Media vice a paper element.

P.P.S. For the original poster, sorry for the hijack. I hope you got your questions about the GM Synchromesh answered.
__________________


C66 Racing #66 NASA ST2, SCCA T2
AMSOIL Dealer (Forum Vendor)
AMSOIL Preferred Customer Program (Members buy at Wholesale - a savings of about 25%)





Reply
Old Dec 31, 2004 | 02:00 PM
  #23  
C66 Racing's Avatar
C66 Racing
Premium Supporting Vendor
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 5,364
Likes: 38
From: King George VA
Default

Originally Posted by Cruncher
As to your comment on Subdriver's deisre to "help and inform"...ever notice how he is always, & I mean always, is informing us on how great Amway is???
Again, I am sorry that you feel this way. In general, I mention AMSOIL when I feel it is appropriate to the posters question.

Here are couple of recent examples of my assistance to other forum members that have nothing to do with AMSOIL:

Helped a guy who had a question about using R compound tires on the the street/track:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=978180

Helped a guy with a vibration problem with his Kumho Ecsta tires, the type I have on my stock rims:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=978587

Helped a guy with questions on his coolant temps:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=979022

Helped a guy with questions on which way the vanes on his rotors should point:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=979889

Gave input on to a guy looking for opinions on Coupe vs. Z06:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=979205

Gave input to a guy on the suitability of the Z06 as a daily driver:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=978764

Provided some input to a guy having trouble getting his rear caliper off:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=974080

Provided some input on corner weighting to several members asking about it:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=977845

I'm not here primarily to sell AMSOIL. I'm here because I am a corvette owner, just like all of you.
Reply




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:54 AM.

story-0
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-2
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE